Audemars Piguet Jeweled Rotor Bearings History
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Audemars Piguet Jeweled Rotor Bearings History

By halgedahl · May 21, 2019 · 26 replies
halgedahl
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These images are posted here with permission of the owner, Alex83, who has the watch for sale on this site. My question involves the use of jeweled roller bearings on the rotor, which I've never encountered before and find quite interesting. Obviously other methods proved better/more reliable over t

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These images are posted here with permission of the owner, Alex83, who has the watch for sale on this site. My question involves the use of jeweled roller bearings on the rotor, which I've never encountered before and find quite interesting. Obviously other methods proved better/more reliable over time, for I have seen no "modern" calibre that sports such an approach. But a little history, here, would be interesting. Any takers? (My thanks in advance.    FH)





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reintitan
May 21, 2019
No expert on these but if you take a look at Rolex movements

Until recently with the release of the 32xx caliber and the 41xx in-house chronograph movements which use ceramic ball bearings on the rotor, the 31xx, 15xx, 10xx caliber series dating back to the 1950s use a ruby jewel bushing on their rotors. Photo credit: Timezone There there is IWC which modified the ETA 2892-2 (calling it IWC cal. 37521) on their Ocean Bund ref. 3509 to use ruby bearings on the rotor instead of steel balls. (Note another version of the 37521 used steel ball bearings instead

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mkvc
May 21, 2019
It is a beautiful application, but rather rigid.

My sample size is not large (I have owned two watches with that movement), but there does not seem to be any shock absorption built into the design. (Most automatic rotors do have some shock absorption.) Perhaps coincidentally, one of my two watches with that movement had trouble with wear of its winding rotor pivot mechanism. I have read that some people have had similar issues with the Ap 2120/2121/Vacheron 1120 mentioned previously in this thread. Leaving that issue aside, it would be hard to

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halgedahl
May 22, 2019
Agreed! But tell me more about shock absorption in rotorsβ€”a nerdy topic if ever there were one! But I'm interested. FH [nt]

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reintitan
May 22, 2019
This is true. Jeweled rotor damage due to shock is a known issue

Even with movements as robust as the Rolex 31xx and 15xx line. But it takes a lot to damage it; just think they're used on Sea-Dwellers, GMT-Master, Subs, and Explorers and were made in the millions of units over decades. It's an inherent weakness in using crystalline jewels.

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halgedahl
May 23, 2019
Ah, as opposed to synthetic. Does anyone use naturally occurring jewels anymore? Like a nod to the past? [nt]

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reintitan
May 24, 2019
These rubies are synthetic just like the corundum used for sapphire crystals

It would be way too expensive to use natural jewels.

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