Breitling Old Navitimer II (1998) Review
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Breitling Old Navitimer II (1998) Review

By ED209 · Jul 20, 2013 · 10 replies
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ED209 shares a personal account of his Breitling Old Navitimer II, highlighting its design, movement, and a notable service experience. This post offers a valuable look at a specific reference from a collector's perspective, including insights into its wearability and the challenges of watch servicing.

This week's wristscan with the aviation theme reminded me of one of my first watches that I picked up many years ago.  It's a Breitling Navitimer, officially named the Old Breitling Navitimer II.  The Navitimer collection was first introduced in 1952 and besides having the chronograph function it also had a innovative navigation computer that was useful in calculating flight plan activities.  This navigation computer was incorporated into the watch as a circular slide rule with calculation scales along the outer edge of the dial.  The bezel rotates in both directions and has it's own numeric scale for the calculations.  When I received my watch it came with a circular slide rule with thick instruction booklet that explain how to do many of the mathematical calculations. 




Production of the Old Navitimer II was between 1993 and 2002, with my watch being made in 1998.  It had three subdial layout with the chronograph totalizers at the 6, 9 and 12 o'clock positions along with a date at 3 o'clock.  The more current versions have the tri-compax totalizer layout with a date at between 4 and 5 o'clock.  For me I really like the older version with the date at 3 o'clock because I think it looks more symetrical. 
My watch was a special order that I made with my AD and took approximately 5 weeks for delivery.  I had specified a silvered dial with luminous Arabic numerals for the hour markers.  A standard gold and stainless steel Navitimer came with a silvered dial with silver colored stick hour markers.

The Breitling Old Navitimer II had a Breitling Caliber 13 automatic movement which uses the base ETA Valjoux 7750.  Power reserve was a standard 42 hours.  It was extremely reliable and kept time well.  I used the chronograph a lot during business travel and never had an issues with the movement.  After about 12 years of almost daily wear, I ended up sending it back to Breitling for a spa treatment with a full polish and movement overhaul.

While I was waiting for my watch to return, I embarked on a project with one of my other hobbies: radio controlled model helicopters.  It's something that I've been actively involved in for a number of years and I become proficient enough to start flying full fuselage r/c helicopters.  I thought that it would be cool to build a model Breitling heli since the brand has such a long connection to aviation.
 It took a while to build but I ended up using one of my Align T-Rex 450SE sized electric helicopter chassis.  I built a fiberglass canopy modeled after the real full scale  Breitling Hughes 500.  To make the flight characteristics more scale-like I dialed down all the trims to make it more stable.  The carbon fiber blades tracked perfectly and has a headspeed of about 1800 rpm. 





 It took about 4 months for the service to be performed by Breitling USA and when I received it back I was somewhat disappointed with it.  The polishing was perfect as the watch looked brand new.  However if you look closely can you spot the subtle difference? 





They changed the style of the hands sad   It was easy to spot right away and no need for a close comparison.  The replacement hands have a broader tip than the original.  Also, the tip of the hands have long needles sticking out of it.  When I brought this up with my AD and Breitling they said it was the same and that was the only hands they had available.  I showed them several photos of my watch prior to being sent and even though it was clear that the new hands were different, Breitling refused to do anything further.  This really turned me off to the brand and from that point forward I haven't purchased another Breitling watch again.  I have to admit that I do travel with my Breitling Aerospace because it has so many useful features like the digital chronograph and multiple alarm settings. 







Anyway, I still continue to fly my Breitling r/c helicopter and it's been a lot of fun.  Hope you all enjoy the pics.

Regards,
ED-209


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nilomis
Jul 20, 2013

Just today a dear friend acquired an Old Navitimer II (Black dialed, gold bezel). I had one (robbed) but one day I plan to return to this wonderful Breitling Navi line. Congrats, Nilo

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Frederick
Jul 20, 2013

I've always liked the Navitimer, but felt itmight be a bit large on my wrist. That's a really cool custom built cipter. Did you have as much fun building that as you do building a custom 1911? Cheers, Frederick

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WatchFred
Jul 21, 2013

the hands are clearly wrong for the Old Navitimer II - a shame that they could not get you correct hands (I can't think of a model these would be correct for, btw.) , I think you should contact Breitling Switzerland and insist on getting this right. It get's even worse, a lot worse with true vintage icons, I have seen Breitling Switzerland put totally incorrect hands on a SuperOcean ref. 1004 from 1957, irreparably spoiling a rare beauty; I never ever would have them work on a piece from my vint

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Dr No
Jul 21, 2013

. . . changed the hands at all, Ed. If the first photo is fairly recent, then there was practically no evident degradation. I've had a few problems of my own with local watchmakers that can't seem to follow explicit instructions: cases that were polished when told not to, and failure to replace marginal parts when asked for. Dealing with a service department in another hemisphere must be even worse . . .

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ED209
Jul 21, 2013

Hi Nilo, the black dial with gold bezel looks great too. Congrats to your friend and hope you get another one soon. Regards, ED-209

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ED209
Jul 21, 2013

Hi Frederick, IMO the Navitimer bracelet is really supple and helps make the 41.5mm size wearable even on small wrists. It has a thin bezel and the sapphire crystal goes out to the edge so it makes it look larger than it really is. Thanks for the compliments on the r/c heli. I enjoy buiilding both, and would say that the heli is more difficult because I have to deal with the mechanical aspects as well as the electronics and radio programming. Lots of math too. Yes, I love building both! :) Regar

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