Luxury Watch Collection Next Frontier Part I
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Luxury Watch Collection Next Frontier Part I

By JoshTheCanadian · Jan 14, 2022 · 34 replies
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JoshTheCanadian's introspective journey into luxury watch collecting offers a relatable narrative for enthusiasts navigating the evolving horological landscape. His 'Next Frontier' post, penned in 2022, explores the pivotal decision points collectors face after acquiring a grail watch, specifically a Patek Philippe. This article distills community insights on expanding a collection, considering independent watchmakers, and the challenges of brand accessibility in a dynamic market.


In the late oughts, I started my journey as a watch enthusiast in earnest.  I had always had at least a passing an interest in watches – owning and wearing, at various times, a Casio calculator watch, a Casio G-Shock, a Victorinox, and others I cannot now recall – but until that point, I had not breached the surface of this hobby.

My earliest horologically significant memory is this:  I clipped a Patek 5035 from a magazine, and had it under the glass of my homework desk.  That was about it.

I cannot recall what, in particular, ignited my interest, but I plunged into the hobby headfirst – as I have a tendency to do with most of my hobbies.  I was a student at the time and, being on a student budget (I’m talking a selling platelets, and eating ramen budget), I started with the usual suspects:  a Seiko Orange Monster, an SKX007, an Orient Mako, and others.  Ultimately, I saved my money, and in late 2012 and early 2013, following a couple years of summer clerkships, I was able to purchase my first two serious watches – a hesalite Omega Speedmaster, and a Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra-Thin Moon – both of which remain in my collection.  I considered saving up additional money, and trying to get a FPJ Chrono Bleu when I started working, but it was beyond what I was comfortable spending at that time (a meager $14,000 if I paid cash – we all make mistakes (nb. – including the AD, which lost its right to be a FPJ AD).  As a result, I put this hobby on the backburner, and directed my attention to other things.

For the following seven some odd years, I generally followed what was going on in the watch world.  I read the blogs, checked out the forums every now and then, etc.  However, I moved twice, married once, bought a house, adopted a pet, and had a child.  So it is not like I was doing nothing.

It only took the COVID-19 pandemic to reignite my passion.

With a few cancelled vacations, and a modest windfall from cryptocurrency, I decided that 2021 was my year to tick an item off of my horological checklist – a Patek.  For as long as I can remember (see comment about the Patek 5035, supra), that has been my goal.  And, towards the end of 2021, I picked up my first and only Patek, the 5205G-013.  It was not my first choice – specifically, I have always lusted for a 5712 (way before it was cool to do so).  However, now that I own it, I am glad that I did not have the option.  In addition, I also picked up a 36mm Rolex Explorer, and a Bvlgari Octo Finissimo S.  Good things come in threes, perhaps.

So, in total, my six-watch watch box is filled with five watches:  the hesalite Omega Speedmaster, the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra-Thin Moon, the Patek 5205G-013, the Rolex Explorer, and the Bvlgari Octo Finissimo S.

Which means, at this juncture, I’ve got one spot remaining.

Which brings us to the title of this article:  The Next Frontier.

In my journey as an enthusiast, I feel like I have reached something of a crossroads.  As a long-term goal, the Patek was an easy decision.  I had already narrowed down the brand.  However, now that I am the owner of what I once strived for – what do I do next?

The first branch in the road:  I could dive farther into the world of Patek.  Perhaps I could save for a grand complication – a perpetual calendar, or maybe even a perpetual calendar chronograph.  Or, perhaps, I could buy a Calatrava or complication, with the goal of getting a 5231 – or whatever its replacement might be by the time I receive the allocation.  Or, perhaps, I could get an allocation for a 5712, or a 5164.  Now, I understand that going this path would require some not-so-desired purchases – perhaps, a twenty-4 for my wife, or some dust-gathering reference.  And the thought of that eventuality left something of a bad taste in my mouth.  Further, the more I considered this branch, the more I thought to myself – do I really want to jump through the hoops?  Do I want to keep the flow going, when the flow is such a substantial amount of money?  Do I want to buy things I don’t want to get things I do want?  And, correspondingly, the more thought that I gave to this branch, the more that I decided this may not be the path I want to go down.  I felt a little niggle in the back of my head – is this what luxury is supposed to feel like?  Why do I feel so disconnected from the experience?  It almost felt like I was keeping up with the Joneses, but in this instance, no one cares about my fancy watches.

The second branch in the road:  I could be happy with the 5205G-013 being the apex of my collection and embrace other watches that I appreciate, some equal to, and some less than, the 5205G-013.  The Lange 1815 up/down comes to mind.  I’ve always wanted an Omega Seamaster.  Oh, and lest I forget, the VC 1931.  And, of course, a precious metal Daytona on Oyster Flex.  And the PF Tonda.  And a Grand Seiko, or even two.  And the list goes on.  And on.  And on.  After flipping and flopping back and forth, I remembered a snippet from my High School Latin class:  nosce te ipsum, “know thyself.”  If I do not focus, I will find a million different things to love.  And I am a man who falls in love hard and fast.  Further, in my mind, I am dead set against being a collector, as opposed to being an enthusiast.  I enjoy wearing my watches, and would like to keep my collection at six so I can do so (which, more realistically, will likely mean that I will end up with eight).

The third branch in the road:  be happy with that I have.  Frankly, I gave some thought to this.  Sure, it isn’t very fun – but I already have five gorgeous watches.  Fortunately, I talked myself out of this path – specifically, this brings me joy in my life, and why would I want to stop that?

The fourth, and final, branch in the road:  the road less traveled.  A bumpy, winding road.  Single lane, no passing.  Speed limit of 25 mph.  Of course, I speak of the road of the independents.  I have always had a soft spot for independents.  A small operation, working with an artisan, a personal experience, a watch made closer to the traditional way – all the things I love about my other hobbies, tailoring and shoemaking, chief among others, in this hobby of watches.  What can I say, I’m a romantic.  As I have grown in this hobby, I have realized in myself that I am generally disinterested in complications.  Or, to put it a different way – I am more fascinated in interesting and complicated ways of keeping precise time, as opposed to complications that I have little need for.  To that end, I’m drawn to time-online watches, and that is where the independents shine.  In particular, I have always had a soft spot for Kari, and I thought – maybe I should just shoot him an email!  To me, obtaining a watch from him has seemed next to impossible, as, in my eyes, he and Philippe Dufour share the same pedestal.  But, sure enough, I received an email from Kari personally, shortly thereafter, received an agreement, and wired my deposit.

I have zero clue where this will go from here.  If the COVID-19 pandemic permits, I would love to visit his workshop, and that will provide me with a great opportunity to contribute Part II.  Until then, I am keeping the watch and my proposed idea under wraps, but will keep you fine folks abreast of the journey.


About the A. Lange and Söhne Emil Lange Ref. 1815

The A. Lange & Söhne 1815 reference 206.032, introduced in 1999, is a notable example of the brand's commitment to traditional watchmaking principles. This model is part of the 1815 collection, which pays homage to the birth year of Ferdinand Adolph Lange and emphasizes classic design elements such as Arabic numerals and blued hands, drawing inspiration from historical Lange pocket watches. It represents a more understated and purist aesthetic compared to some of the brand's more complex offerings, focusing on fundamental horological excellence.

This particular reference features an 18k rose gold case measuring 36mm in diameter and 7.5mm in thickness. It houses the manually wound L941.1 caliber, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The movement provides a power reserve of 45 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal on the front, protecting a solid silver dial. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear but not for immersion.

The 1815 206.032 appeals to collectors who appreciate classical proportions and a focus on fundamental watchmaking without excessive complications. Its smaller case size reflects a more traditional approach to men's wristwatches, making it a desirable piece for those seeking a discreet yet highly refined timepiece. The combination of rose gold and a silver dial offers a warm and legible presentation, consistent with the collection's historical inspirations.

Specifications

Caliber
L941.1
Case
18k rose gold
Diameter
36mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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takman
Jan 14, 2022

What a read and thank you for sharing. I have a lot in common with what you wrote and it almost felt like I was reading my own story. I’ll be a father for the first time this year so I am also looking to add a special piece to the collection. The VC 1921, especially in 36.5mm is a watch I really want to try on. I only have 4 slots in my watch box with one Reverso and some JDM Seiko models. I share your feelings about all the hoops to jump through and I also refuse to play such games. Unexpectedl

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JoshTheCanadian
Jan 14, 2022

I am a native of Vancouver - I grew up in Kitsilano, in fact! The VC 1921 is an absolutely magnificent watch. If I do, indeed, increase my watch box to 8, I think that one has a surefire shot of making the cut. Funny you mention the Reverso - that is one that I have had my eyes on for years - and, no less, the Chopard - I have also considered the Alpine Eagle, specifically, the Cadence 8hf. Once nice thing about the project - it forces me to wait!

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Brandon Skinner
Jan 14, 2022

Good luck with whatever direction your journey takes you!

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FabR
Jan 14, 2022

Hence my best suggestion is to pursue just that, but only to the extent you fully enjoy the experience…in particular, *never* purchase a watch (Patek or otherwise) that you don’t want, only in order to arrive at another one! Even if I don’t like to think of Patek as “luxury” (“prestige”, “exclusivity” are the first terms that come to mind), I agree that’s definitely NOT what a superior experience should be about!😉 While it might not be easy at the beginning (Patek is obviously harder to access t

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Pelle_thorstenson
Jan 14, 2022

I began my Friday by reading this twice and in several ways it contains food for my own thoughts when it comes to watches. Many thanks. Bon weekend. Pelle

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JoshTheCanadian
Jan 14, 2022

And I am drawn entirely to new watches - I cannot stand knowing that my watch had a life before me. I know this forecloses me to a lot of beautiful watches in the hobby, but for now, it is something I can live with. I have considered a birth year watch (a very early 3970, perhaps), but I have purchased two watches second-hand and sold them almost immediately.

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