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In a thought-provoking post, m2 challenges the WatchProSite community to define acceptable quality issues in luxury watches. He posits that expectations should vary significantly between vintage rarities and modern, high-end independent watchmaking. m2's insights spark a lively debate, particularly concerning the perceived quality and manufacturing processes of esteemed independent watchmakers like Roger Smith, Greubel Forsey, and Haldimann.
They do wear and tear. I donât believe some deep beveling or nice sharp angles cannot be achieved by another watchmaker whoâs assigned one job just to polish. Hence I wonât buy too high end expensive IndiesâŠbut who do I know? Does the brush strokes of those super expensive Van Gogh or Leonardoâs work are from brushes and paint that are works of God that no one can reproduce? In short, unacceptable and hence Iâm not touching them. Patek Philippe, Langes, Chopard LUCs are good enough for me. Watch
I don't think that's fair at all. Either one should provide a recent example, or I would say that the argument doesn't have a leg to stand on in this. Now, I don't mean to be unnecessarily harsh to you, my apologies, but I've seen this exact argument on a few forums, so I think it's time to retire it (or, as I say, use a recent example). To be clear, I am not really a fan of Roger Smith. The co-axial is a bit of a failure in terms of its promise to use direct impulse (it's one direct, one indire
Personally, I am in awe of anyone who is willing to step onto the stage and subject themselves to public scrutiny. đ§
Of loving evidence of the âHand of the Makerâ! I have no problem with signs that a human being was involved, especially where magnification of this order is required. I think the beauty lies in the wonderful dial design, the history behind this extraordinary maker. No magnifying glass will change that for me.
Being "handmade" doesn't make it good... or even actually handmade. Having 50 interior angles doesn't mean any of them were executed well. Innovative complications doesn't equate to well tested, performant, and reliable. In the current indy craze I think a lot of people are buying based on stories, on media, on what they hear, and what they see on the internet without actually considering whether it's any good. It sounds stupid but it's hard to know what good is. Two interviews come to mind whic
He uses CNC for the cutting of components, and he doesn't make jewels, springs, and gaskets. He has openly shared such info with watch publications, social media, speeches, gatherings, and watch fairs. It's not a secret. His workshop is opened for any of us who would like to visit him at Isle of Man. You should witness the entire manufacturing process yourself. Next with regards to "quality" - all the independent artisanal watchmakers I visited in Geneva use a 10x loupe to finish their watches,
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