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Dr. Tabby, known as Spangles on WatchProSite, initiates a fascinating comparative study of guilloché dial craftsmanship. He challenges the community to look beyond brand loyalty and aesthetic preference, focusing instead on the intricate quality of work by two prominent dial makers: Metalem and Comblemine. This discussion provides a rare, in-depth look into the artistry and technical nuances behind some of haute horlogerie's most revered dials.
Metalem versus Comblemine! I've tried and partially failed to find two dials with similar guilloche patterns. Nonetheless, I ask that you not judge the watch or the dial design (It's hard, I know, but try to put aside your feelings about either watch). Instead, I ask your sense of the quality of the work done by these two dial companies. I'd say they both do great work, but what do you say?
Metalem made this dial to Czapek’s specifications

Another by Metalem for Czapek. It's a sort of variation of grain d'orge / barleycorn pattern with two foci, perhaps?

Comblemine made this dial for Armin Strom a classic barleycorn pattern

Another by Comblemine in a sunburst pattern for Armin Strom
Key Points from the Discussion
- Metalem is a large, highly capable dial manufacturer known for superb craftsmanship, with Breguet also standing out for its extensive in-house guilloché department that works on both dials and movement parts.
- All guilloché dials involve extensive handwork, making each piece unique and dependent on the individual craftsman, with brands often requesting traditional or innovative patterns like Czapek's 'guilloché ricochet'.
- The base material for guilloché dials varies; Breguet and Patek Philippe typically use a gold disc that is then silvered, while A.L. Breguet originally, and some contemporary independent watchmakers like JN Shapiro, use a silver disc treated with acid to create a durable white oxidized layer.
- When evaluating guilloché, key factors include the complexity and density of the patterns, noting that a more complex pattern with multiple origin points might be less dense, while simpler patterns can be executed with higher density.
- It is challenging to separate objective quality from personal aesthetic preferences when judging guilloché, as all presented examples appear to be executed to a very high standard.
- The potential use of modern technologies by one dial maker over another could influence appreciation for their work, despite both producing beautiful dials.
- The discussion prompted further inquiry into which dial makers are responsible for specific high-end brand dials, such as Parmigiani Fleurier's guilloché work, suggesting Metalem's involvement.
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