
KMII initiates a thought-provoking discussion on the future of 'interesting' military wristwatches, questioning whether modern, disposable G-Shocks have rendered traditional collectible military timepieces obsolete. He invites the community to consider if new drool-worthy military watches will emerge or if the era of historically significant mechanical military watches has passed.


The Panerai Luminor reference 817 is a chronograph model from the 1970s, representing a distinct departure from the brand's more common time-only or simple date configurations of the era. This reference showcases Panerai's capability in producing more complex instrumentation, aligning with its historical role as a supplier of specialized tools. It stands out in the Luminor family for its specific chronograph functionality, which was not a standard offering across the broader Luminor collection. Its design reflects the utilitarian aesthetic prevalent in professional-grade timepieces of its period.
The case of the Luminor 817 is crafted from stainless steel, featuring the characteristic Luminor crown protection device. The watch houses a manual-winding mechanical movement, providing reliable timekeeping and chronograph operation. While specific dimensions can vary slightly across examples, it typically presents a substantial wrist presence consistent with its intended use. The crystal protecting the dial is likely acrylic, a common material for watches of this vintage, offering durability and ease of maintenance.
This reference appeals to collectors interested in Panerai's less common and more technically involved historical pieces. It offers a glimpse into the brand's diversification beyond its core dive watch offerings, highlighting its engineering capabilities in the mid-20th century. The 817 is a notable example for those seeking a vintage Panerai with chronograph functionality, distinguishing it from the more frequently encountered time-only Luminor models.
I\'ll have to think about this. My first though is yes, it\'s over!
Era of a mechanical tool watch for military is over. Cheaper, more accurate and more"reliable" quartz is here.
But there will still be collectors of military watches in the future at least the next 100-150 years. Just like how people still collect pocket watches today.
Now, there is one interesting example you mentioned, the JLC Navy SEALs Alarm. There was a partnership, to make it short, between JLC and the Navy SEALs. JLC used the NAVY SEALs as a laboratory to test their watches in rough conditions, and The Navy SEALs received some watches in return. Best, Nicolas
We must target PEACE. I have this watch but I could care less if it was approved /tested by this or that organization. It was approved and tested by me and I'm glad that it don't carry any military info on the dial. Cheers Nilo
They make special series for the French "unités d\'élite" such as the GIGN and RAID or the Commando Hubert. Or the Portuguese DAE. Here are two pics of them found on their respective websites Of course these brands are probably not really well known but they exist. Hope it helps for this debate ;-) Best wishes Alkiro
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