Future of Military Wristwatches: Collectible or Obsolete?
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Future of Military Wristwatches: Collectible or Obsolete?

By KMII · Jan 14, 2017 · 42 replies
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KMII initiates a thought-provoking discussion on the future of 'interesting' military wristwatches, questioning whether modern, disposable G-Shocks have rendered traditional collectible military timepieces obsolete. He invites the community to consider if new drool-worthy military watches will emerge or if the era of historically significant mechanical military watches has passed.

This is not supposed to be a piece of Leninist dogma (title notwithstanding) - just an observation I'd like to discuss with fellow Purist comrades smile

If you go through our brand forums (admittedly not RM or RD) there are very, very many military watches being cherished by proud owners and avidly discussed by the community. And I am pretty sure this will continue to be the case for many years to come.

What I am more interested in is if this august subject matter will have any new members added - i.e. have we seen the last of drool-worthy military watches?



From: Nilomis

No one will seriously question the fitness for purpose of a modern semi-indestructible G-Shock or equivalent for the use in a combat environment. And if it breaks, it's disposable enough. At the same time, the emotional appeal is likely to lie with its wearer a lot more than with the wider watch community.

Put differently, I cannot see future generations hankering after these in the same way a Breitling 817, a Heuer Bund, a Zenith 146 Cairelli, a Majetek - to name just a few - are now.

I guess the last example may well be the JLC Master Compressor Diving Alarm Navy Seals (do by all means correct me if I'm wrong) as pictured on the great shot by Nilomis above. And I do not mean re-editions of past greats, which irrespective of how well executed, will always lack the authenticity of being designed and worn primarily by military personnel - at least with the potential of being used in anger.

So what's your opinion? Am I being unnecessarily alarmist and missing many great examples in development or recently launched? Is it just unstoppable progress, creative destruction if you wish?

About the Panerai Luminor Ref. 817

The Panerai Luminor reference 817 is a chronograph model from the 1970s, representing a distinct departure from the brand's more common time-only or simple date configurations of the era. This reference showcases Panerai's capability in producing more complex instrumentation, aligning with its historical role as a supplier of specialized tools. It stands out in the Luminor family for its specific chronograph functionality, which was not a standard offering across the broader Luminor collection. Its design reflects the utilitarian aesthetic prevalent in professional-grade timepieces of its period.

The case of the Luminor 817 is crafted from stainless steel, featuring the characteristic Luminor crown protection device. The watch houses a manual-winding mechanical movement, providing reliable timekeeping and chronograph operation. While specific dimensions can vary slightly across examples, it typically presents a substantial wrist presence consistent with its intended use. The crystal protecting the dial is likely acrylic, a common material for watches of this vintage, offering durability and ease of maintenance.

This reference appeals to collectors interested in Panerai's less common and more technically involved historical pieces. It offers a glimpse into the brand's diversification beyond its core dive watch offerings, highlighting its engineering capabilities in the mid-20th century. The 817 is a notable example for those seeking a vintage Panerai with chronograph functionality, distinguishing it from the more frequently encountered time-only Luminor models.

Specifications

Caliber
Valjoux 74
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
43mm
Dial
Black
Crystal
Acrylic

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Harry2
Jan 14, 2017

I\'ll have to think about this. My first though is yes, it\'s over!

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Bounce781
Jan 14, 2017

Era of a mechanical tool watch for military is over. Cheaper, more accurate and more"reliable" quartz is here.

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Mario
Jan 14, 2017

But there will still be collectors of military watches in the future at least the next 100-150 years. Just like how people still collect pocket watches today.

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amanico
Jan 14, 2017

Now, there is one interesting example you mentioned, the JLC Navy SEALs Alarm. There was a partnership, to make it short, between JLC and the Navy SEALs. JLC used the NAVY SEALs as a laboratory to test their watches in rough conditions, and The Navy SEALs received some watches in return. Best, Nicolas

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nilomis
Jan 14, 2017

We must target PEACE. I have this watch but I could care less if it was approved /tested by this or that organization. It was approved and tested by me and I'm glad that it don't carry any military info on the dial. Cheers Nilo

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Alkiro1
Jan 15, 2017

They make special series for the French "unités d\'élite" such as the GIGN and RAID or the Commando Hubert. Or the Portuguese DAE. Here are two pics of them found on their respective websites Of course these brands are probably not really well known but they exist. Hope it helps for this debate ;-) Best wishes Alkiro

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