BradTrent shares his annual tradition of photographing Oscar Schafer at the Barron's Roundtable, a series known for showcasing Schafer's extraordinary Patek Philippe collection. This year's post sparks a community debate over the specific reference of Schafer's 'old' Patek, moving away from his usual platinum pieces. The discussion highlights the deep knowledge and passion within the Patek Philippe collecting community.
For the seventh year in a row, I shot the annual Barron's Roundtable on Monday, which of course means Oscar Schafer dropped in with an Ultra-Blingy Patek on his wrist.....

Those of you who have been following these posts will immediately notice that for the first time Oscar doesn't have any Platinum on his wrist! In past years he's worn the 5104P, 5078P, 5016P, 5101P and 5207P, so when he came in he actually apologized and said he was wearing something 'old'. Now me, I'm a Panerai guy and wouldn't even begin to know what model he had on his arm, but when the shoot was done I did a bit of Googling and I figured it was a 2499 Moon Phase, Perpetual Calendar Chrono, but somebody on Paneristi thinks it's only a 3970R....so I leave it up to you guys...which is it?!!
Oh yeah...if you're interested, here's a link to the Monster Truck-Sized view:
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BT
I. Has. Spoke.
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About the Patek Philippe 10-Day Tourbillon Ref. 5101
The Laurent Ferrier Grand Complications reference 5101 is a notable example of the brand's early commitment to traditional watchmaking with a focus on refined finishing and understated design. This reference represents a period where Laurent Ferrier established its distinct aesthetic, combining classical proportions with a high level of horological craftsmanship. It is recognized for its adherence to a more traditional watch size, appealing to collectors who value subtlety and historical precedent in their timepieces.
This particular reference features an 18k white gold case measuring 36 mm in diameter, housing the manual-wind caliber 25-21 REC PS. The movement provides a power reserve of 44 hours. A sapphire crystal protects the black dial, ensuring clarity and scratch resistance. The watch is rated water resistant to 25 meters, suitable for everyday wear but not for immersion.
The Grand Complications 5101 appeals to collectors seeking a discreet yet highly finished independent watchmaking piece. Its production run from 2003 to 2012 places it within the brand's foundational years, making it a point of interest for those tracing the evolution of Laurent Ferrier's catalog. The combination of precious metal, a finely finished manual movement, and a classic dial configuration positions it as a sophisticated choice for connoisseurs.
Specifications
- Caliber
- 25-21 REC PS
- Case
- 18k White Gold
- Diameter
- 36 mm
- Dial
- Black
- Water Resist.
- 25m
- Crystal
- Sapphire
About the Patek Philippe Minute Repeater Ref. 5078
The Patek Philippe reference 5078 represents the manufacture's 38mm minute repeater offering within their complications collection. Part of the 38mm Minute Repeater series, this reference was produced from 2008 to 2019, establishing its position as a contemporary grand complication timepiece.
The 5078 features a 38mm case available in three precious metal options: 18k white gold, 18k rose gold, or platinum. The polished bezel and sapphire crystal complement the available dial color variants. The manual-winding caliber 240 Q provides 48 hours of power reserve, housed within a case rated to 30 meters water resistance. A leather strap with fold-over clasp completes the construction.
This reference appeals to collectors seeking a minute repeater complication in a moderately sized case. The multiple metal options and dial variants provide choice within the reference, while the 11-year production run offers reasonable availability in the secondary market. The 5078 positions itself as an accessible entry point into Patek Philippe's chiming complications category.
Specifications
- Caliber
- 240 Q
- Case
- 18k White Gold, 18k Rose Gold, or Platinum
- Diameter
- 38 mm
- Dial
- Multiple variants available
- Water Resist.
- 30m
- Crystal
- Sapphire
About the Breguet Classique Tourbillon Ref. 5207
The reference 5207 represents Breguet's approach to the tourbillon complication within the Classique collection. This manual-wind timepiece positions itself as part of the brand's Tourbillon series, offering the visual spectacle of the rotating escapement in a traditional round case format.
The 39mm case is crafted from 18k rose gold and fitted with a sapphire crystal. The silver dial provides contrast against the warm-toned case material. A manual-winding movement powers the timepiece, requiring daily winding to maintain operation. The fixed bezel maintains clean proportions, while 30-meter water resistance provides basic protection against moisture.
This reference appeals to collectors seeking a tourbillon complication in precious metal with traditional proportions. The 39mm case size accommodates most wrist sizes without excessive presence. The combination of rose gold case and silver dial offers visual contrast for those preferring warm metal tones with neutral dial colors. The manual movement requires engagement from the wearer through regular winding.
Specifications
- Caliber
- 558T
- Case
- 18k Rose Gold
- Diameter
- 39 mm
- Dial
- Silver
- Water Resist.
- 30m
- Crystal
- Sapphire
About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 2499
The Patek Philippe Reference 2499 is a highly significant perpetual calendar chronograph, representing a pivotal model in the brand's history of complicated wristwatches. It succeeded the Reference 1518 and introduced a larger case diameter and updated aesthetic, establishing a design language that would influence subsequent perpetual calendar chronographs from Patek Philippe for decades. The reference was produced in four distinct series, each with subtle variations in dial layout, pusher style, and case construction.
This reference typically features a case crafted from precious metals, most commonly yellow gold, though examples in rose gold and platinum are known. The case diameter is generally 37.5mm, housing a manual-wind movement, specifically the caliber 13''' Q. This movement integrates a perpetual calendar mechanism with a chronograph function, offering indications for day, date, month, leap year, and moon phases. The crystal is typically acrylic for earlier series and sapphire for later iterations.
The 2499 is highly sought after by collectors due to its rarity, complexity, and historical importance. It is considered a benchmark for vintage complicated Patek Philippe watches and represents the evolution of the perpetual calendar chronograph from the mid-20th century. The variations between the four series provide distinct collecting opportunities, with each series possessing unique characteristics that appeal to different connoisseurs.
Specifications
- Caliber
- 13''' Q
- Case
- 18k white gold
- Diameter
- 37.5mm
- Dial
- Silver
- Water Resist.
- 30m
- Crystal
- Sapphire
About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 3970
The Patek Philippe reference 3970 is a perpetual calendar chronograph, a complication central to the brand's heritage. It succeeded the highly regarded reference 2499 and served as a bridge to the later reference 5970. The 3970 was produced over an extended period, allowing for several series and subtle variations in its design, making it a significant model for collectors interested in the evolution of Patek Philippe's complicated wristwatches.
This reference features a 36mm case, commonly found in 18k white gold, yellow gold, rose gold, and platinum. It is powered by the manual-wind caliber CH 27-70 Q, based on a Lemania รฉbauche, which offers a power reserve of 60 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal, protecting a dial that typically includes subdials for the chronograph, perpetual calendar displays, and moon phases.
The 3970 appeals to collectors seeking a classic Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph with a traditional aesthetic and a historically important movement. Its long production run from 1986 to 2004 means that examples from different series, such as the first, second, and third, exhibit minor differences in dial layout and case details, providing distinct collecting opportunities within the reference.
Specifications
- Caliber
- CH 27-70 Q
- Case
- 18k white gold
- Diameter
- 36mm
- Dial
- Silver
- Water Resist.
- 25m
- Crystal
- Sapphire