Patek Philippe Salon Visit: 5170P, 5320G, 5131P
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Patek Philippe Salon Visit: 5170P, 5320G, 5131P

By watch-guy.com · Nov 14, 2017 · 9 replies
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After spending a few days in Geneva and lucky enough to be at the auctions -although truth be told 90% is really boring and spent talking to collectors , dealer, walking around and generally playing on my phone, I wandered up to the Patek salon across the lake and was very well looked after I was we

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After spending a few days in Geneva and lucky enough to be at the auctions -although truth be told 90% is really boring and spent talking to collectors , dealer, walking around and generally playing on my phone, I wandered up to the Patek salon across the lake and was very well looked after

I was wearing my ref 2526 which the sales persons recognized and I was told that the watch was actually made upstairs in the original atelier. Apparently it is now for high value clients and obviously I did not get a look in.





I initially was interested in seeing three models but ended seeing four

The three were the ref 5170P. 5320G and 5131P - I have used stock pics as my photography is no where near as good as the professionals

I was surprised by one , blown away by another and left a little stunned by the third

All three were brought out on a tray and I was allowed to try each one on. They were non working models but I understand were identical to the watch which would be bought if I so desired

My favorite





The Patek ref 5170P is absolutely incredible. The case size is perfect . The dial is spectacular and as most before have said the diamonds are not over powering and the baguettes work very well as hour markers. No evidence of bling at all
It site beautifully on the wrist. It is almost 40mm and is perfect

Available pretty much if you can part with significant amounts of cash. I think this might be the rate limiting step in acquiring one of these. At 85k there is plenty of other stuff around but I suspect the person who buys this has what he/?she wants already

My absolute favorite and standout of the day

The 5320





I was not expecting much from this new white gold piece but boy was I wrong

The design of the case is pretty much what hits you in the face . It has a spectacular art deco design with lugs that just pop out . The white gold case is again a perfect size at 40mm
The movement is a brand new 324SQ movement meant to take over from the old 240 work horse. For this reason it is not available but can be ordered .
Now let’s talk about the dial. I am not a fan of faux patina and that cream dial is pretty close to looking faux but Patek have pulled back the cream to just the right amount so that it looks pretty good
The dial layout and design is very legible as is the lettering ( possibly a little below par) but those hands and numerals looks really good and work well with the color of the dial
The crystal back shows the lovely new movement

Price point similar to the 5170 but much more watch. Horses for courses

The last piece that I tried on was the ref 5131P -as the song says ice -ice - baby.




Heavy piece this , both in terms of weight and stature
Before I continue I have to admit one thing. I am not a fan of world timers. They are not my thing so I was not expecting to like this piece and I am not sure if did but I can see why others would fall for it. The enamel dial is what sells this piece not the case or the bracelet.
In fact I found the case a little “boring” A simple calatrava design. The lovely hands are a stand out though.
I am actually a fan of white gold or platinum pieces and love the art form of enameling , I even thought of getting one of the art pieces but personally at over 100k I would put this as my least favorite of the three. And not because of the price , it just did not sing to me
The case design is the perfect size at 40 mm and the colors of the enameled dial are incredible but the whole thing together did not do anything much for me . It is not available at the moment and there is a massive backlog to get one if one orders one today
What do I know?.

As I was walking out after about 40 mins something caught the corner of my vision. There is was. All alone in a cabinet. Darth vader. Black . So black you cannot see the dial. Only the silvered numbers and hands. Reference five three seven zero in platinum. I asked to see and the assistant was more than happy to take me back to the room and show it to me. Try it on she said. See what it looks like on your wrist. Do I really care if a Monet or Renoir looks good in my house because it is a 70’s style. I did not try it on but looked deep into the dial. The black enamel is like a black hole. So dark that no light can escape and smooth as a mercury





The case is a perfect size. 41mm . Simple calatrava again with cabochon in the lugs. Breguet numerals and beautiful hands. Oh in case you are worried, it is water resistant to 30m. Or so the website says. Not sure if it has been tested.
This and a reference 2499 are the complete Patek collection





For the rest of us we can only dream

About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 2499

The Patek Philippe Reference 2499 is a highly significant perpetual calendar chronograph, representing a pivotal model in the brand's history of complicated wristwatches. It succeeded the Reference 1518 and introduced a larger case diameter and updated aesthetic, establishing a design language that would influence subsequent perpetual calendar chronographs from Patek Philippe for decades. The reference was produced in four distinct series, each with subtle variations in dial layout, pusher style, and case construction.

This reference typically features a case crafted from precious metals, most commonly yellow gold, though examples in rose gold and platinum are known. The case diameter is generally 37.5mm, housing a manual-wind movement, specifically the caliber 13''' Q. This movement integrates a perpetual calendar mechanism with a chronograph function, offering indications for day, date, month, leap year, and moon phases. The crystal is typically acrylic for earlier series and sapphire for later iterations.

The 2499 is highly sought after by collectors due to its rarity, complexity, and historical importance. It is considered a benchmark for vintage complicated Patek Philippe watches and represents the evolution of the perpetual calendar chronograph from the mid-20th century. The variations between the four series provide distinct collecting opportunities, with each series possessing unique characteristics that appeal to different connoisseurs.

Specifications

Caliber
13''' Q
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
37.5mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire
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Baron - Mr Red
Nov 14, 2017

No point in me commenting on the watches......so much already said and after all, what is truly interesting is just hearing how each one affected you. I think it is probably correct to say that each watch affects a person in a unique way. What fascinates me is when i hear the view of another collector.... and especially one like you. I think you may have just given the 5370P its name!

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COUNT DE MONET
Nov 14, 2017

Or was it not looking evidently stamped out of one piece of metal? Thank you for your toughts on these pieces.

GE
geross
Nov 14, 2017

The world time certainly looks great , all platinum. I suppose quite heavy. But i like the cream dialed one , annual calendar in white gold seems perfect to me. Best wishes. Safe travels. Geross.

WA
watch-guy.com
Nov 14, 2017

But the case and lugs seemed to flow into each other a great design J

WA
watch-guy.com
Nov 14, 2017

I thought I was being quite diplomatic Thanks alkiro J😇

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