Patek Philippe Nautilus 3800/1J Aquanaut 5065/1J Comparison
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Patek Philippe Nautilus 3800/1J Aquanaut 5065/1J Comparison

By anaroku · Jun 4, 2024 · 18 replies
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Anaroku, a seasoned collector, shares a captivating comparison between two Patek Philippe icons: the Nautilus 3800/1J and the Aquanaut 5065/1J. This post offers a unique perspective on how these gold bracelet models, despite their shared lineage, present distinct wearing experiences and aesthetic nuances. Anaroku's personal modifications and side-by-side photography provide invaluable insights for enthusiasts considering these highly sought-after references.

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3800 is navy dial, 5065 is black




This 3800/1J originally had a white dial called ”ceramic", but I purchased a navy dial separately and installed it. I think the 3800j with a black calendar disc is rare.








The clasp is not a J type for ease of use (durability) reasons.




I feel that it has a different quality to the clasp on the 5711.






Add the 5711R to complete the trio of the gold bracelet models.


About the Breguet Type XX Aéronavale Ref. 3800

The Patek Philippe reference 3800, introduced in 1981 and available from 1982, represents a significant evolution of the Nautilus line. Positioned as a mid-size alternative to the original reference 3700, it offered a more versatile wearing experience while retaining the distinctive porthole-inspired case design. This reference was notable for being the first Nautilus to feature an in-house automatic movement, marking a shift in Patek Philippe's manufacturing strategy for the model. It was produced until 2006, allowing for a wide array of material and dial variations over its production run.

The case of the reference 3800 measures 37.5 mm in diameter, a reduction from the larger 3700. It was produced in various metals, including stainless steel, yellow gold, rose gold, white gold, and platinum, often paired with integrated bracelets or leather straps. The watch is powered by the in-house automatic caliber 330 SC, which features a central rotor and provides a power reserve of approximately 48 hours. A sapphire crystal protects the dial, and the watch offers water resistance suitable for daily wear.

For collectors, the reference 3800 appeals to those seeking a more understated and wearable Nautilus compared to its larger predecessor. Its long production period resulted in numerous dial configurations, including black, blue, and white, with different hour marker styles. The 3800/1A-001 and 3800/1A-XII are specific stainless steel variants that highlight the model's enduring appeal in its original material. Its status as the first Nautilus with an in-house movement also adds to its historical importance within the brand's catalog.

Specifications

Caliber
330 SC
Case
Stainless Steel
Diameter
37.5 mm
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
100m
Crystal
Sapphire

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JP
jpd
Jun 4, 2024
Sublime!

All 3 are great watches but the 3800/1J is the standout in my opinion. A dream! Enjoy it 😊

GW
Gwai
Jun 4, 2024
Hell yeah!

Cheers Marc

GL
GLau
Jun 4, 2024
Congratulations Shun san in getting the 3800J ! Great photo of having the Nautilus and Aquanaut

side by side to compare and contrast them: very similar and yet so different The yellow gold of the 3800 also looks very different than the 5065. What is their age difference ?

AN
anaroku
Jun 4, 2024
The 3800/1J was released earlier (1981?), and was sold for a long time after that. The 5065 was released in 1998, right?

CH
Champthekid
Jun 4, 2024
All three are fantastic.

It’s hard to pick a favorite.

CH
Chronometer (aka yacomino)
Jun 4, 2024
A trio of heavy hitters!

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