Patek Philippe Nautilus Ref. 3800a: A Collector's Daily Wear Favorite
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Patek Philippe Nautilus Ref. 3800a: A Collector's Daily Wear Favorite

By unekual · Apr 25, 2020 · 25 replies
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unekual's exploration of the Patek Philippe Ref. 3800a, particularly his Beyer double-signed example, offers a compelling argument for its wearability and aesthetic balance. His insights into the nuances of Nautilus references, from clasp design to case proportions, provide valuable context for collectors considering this iconic model. This article delves into why the 3800, often overshadowed by its larger siblings, holds a special place in a seasoned collector's rotation.

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Hi all,  

Here's one of my pieces I wear the most often, it's a ref. 3800a retailed by Beyer. Having owned or extensively worn just about every Nautilus reference (a few exceptions), I can officially retire from the family and say the 3800 is my favourite to wear. The size is incredible for my wrist and the finesse of the case is beautiful. I've always struggled with modern Nautilus pieces due to the new clasp. I'm not a fan at all of the butterfly clasp in general, and the new one on the 5740 is not to my liking either. The older clasps bracelet and buckle are in my opinion much nicer and showcase a les industrialised side to the Nautilus. The watch I've pictured below is my daily wear, only take it off to sleep and when water gets in the way. For those of you that know the reference well, you'll realise the polishing of the bracelet and case isn't "original" - indeed the watch has been polished but it's been done in a very skilful way, the bevel on the side of the bracelet and case elevate the watch to a sportier look in my opinion and I'm very happy with the way it looks (I didn't get this done, I found the watch like this). This paired with the beautiful patina of the dial turning to a green makes it for a fantastic sight to look down at every time I check the time. 

I also feel that the retailer signature makes for a much more balanced dial, something I don't find necessary on 5402 thanks to the AP logo at 6 - but on the Nautilus I find it to be a great addition to the watch.

Cheers, 

M.





Patek 3800a retailed by Beyer


About the Breguet Type XX Aéronavale Ref. 3800

The Patek Philippe reference 3800, introduced in 1981 and available from 1982, represents a significant evolution of the Nautilus line. Positioned as a mid-size alternative to the original reference 3700, it offered a more versatile wearing experience while retaining the distinctive porthole-inspired case design. This reference was notable for being the first Nautilus to feature an in-house automatic movement, marking a shift in Patek Philippe's manufacturing strategy for the model. It was produced until 2006, allowing for a wide array of material and dial variations over its production run.

The case of the reference 3800 measures 37.5 mm in diameter, a reduction from the larger 3700. It was produced in various metals, including stainless steel, yellow gold, rose gold, white gold, and platinum, often paired with integrated bracelets or leather straps. The watch is powered by the in-house automatic caliber 330 SC, which features a central rotor and provides a power reserve of approximately 48 hours. A sapphire crystal protects the dial, and the watch offers water resistance suitable for daily wear.

For collectors, the reference 3800 appeals to those seeking a more understated and wearable Nautilus compared to its larger predecessor. Its long production period resulted in numerous dial configurations, including black, blue, and white, with different hour marker styles. The 3800/1A-001 and 3800/1A-XII are specific stainless steel variants that highlight the model's enduring appeal in its original material. Its status as the first Nautilus with an in-house movement also adds to its historical importance within the brand's catalog.

Specifications

Caliber
330 SC
Case
Stainless Steel
Diameter
37.5 mm
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
100m
Crystal
Sapphire

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geross
Apr 25, 2020
Wonderful Nautilus, right size for you. Your right the patina adds charm to the watch.

A certain nostalgia, good memories. And the double signature is perfect. Balances the dial. Best wishes! 😊 Geross

UN
unekual
Apr 25, 2020
Absolutely :)

I think the patina here comes from humidity which we can also see from close up has left its mark on the hands. Luckily, the tritium from the indices and hands isn't cracked or damaged but wonderfully aged to a nice cream colour. All the best, M.

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FabR
Apr 25, 2020
Thanks for a nice post, and for a beautiful portrait of this reference!

As an owner of several Nautilus references, you've made an interesting and educated choice (that I'm sure is shared by a significant portion of other collectors) by settling on a 3800 as opposed to, for instance, a 3700 or 5711. Looking forward to seeing more of your Patek collection, I bet you'll have more beauties in store for us! Enjoy.

UN
unekual
Apr 25, 2020
The size is the winning argument for me :)

The comfort on the wrist due to the size is what really won me over. I began with a regular 3700 and absolutely adored it - I then "upgraded" to a Gubelin 3700 and at the same time this Beyer was offered to me by my good friend and dealer - he told me to get both and whichever one I preferred he'd buy the other one back off of me. Now here I am with 5 3800s in the collection and no 3700 left haha. It's definitely preference but I just find the case proportions perfect. Thank you for the kind wor

MI
MikiJ
Apr 25, 2020
Loved everything about mine but...

the movement. I bought mine in 1987 and bought my wife their ladies version (quartz). The split-stem movement in the 3800's was one of the few Patek movements that didn't wear the Geneva Seal I'm hoping that your stem doesn't come out as often as mine did. Mine went back to Henri Watch Agency NY so often that I had pre-printed mailing labels. They never charged me for repairs.

UN
unekual
Apr 26, 2020
I've heard about that..

Luckily I've never had that problem on any of my 3800s - however, getting the crown out is always tough and a bit of a stressful moment haha. As I wear it everyday though I rarely need to pull the crown out. M.

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