Rolex 5513 Maxi Dial Type I: Pre-Comex Misnomer
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Rolex 5513 Maxi Dial Type I: Pre-Comex Misnomer

By Bill · Sep 16, 2015 · 10 replies
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Bill's detailed post delves into the nuances of the Rolex Submariner Ref. 5513 Maxi dial, specifically focusing on the Type I variant often mislabeled as 'Pre-Comex.' This article provides crucial visual cues and historical context for distinguishing this highly sought-after dial, offering valuable insights for collectors navigating the complexities of vintage Rolex references.

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I guess I should start by saying I am not sure how the name “Pre Comex” has been attributed to the large lume plots of this dial so I will just call it 5513 Maxi dial.   It does seem however, if it was pre Comex it would appear before the original 5513 Comex with HEV as the pre Comex Logo.  The First series of Comex 5513 small number Rolex Comex engraved case back appears to be in the early 1970’s.  While the Maxi dial which seems to be customized for military or special orders so could be on other Military spec Rolex watches of the time .  Maxi again having larger Lume plots are actually touching the index markers and they appear on the civilian 5513 from the around 1976/1977 ish era approx. 4 to 5 million serial range.  I don’t exactly know the exact range as I have not seem too many examples just the one exposed here as a low mid 4 million series.  

 

This particular dial while in an early 5513 HEV Comex is simply the no logo Comex dial the Maxi which appears later which is pretty much identical is a 5513 Maxi dial MK I or Type I if you like.  Could they have been leftovers from other custom orders or was it really a serial production.  I don’t know. The obvious visual aspect is the large lume plots which are touching the index markers.  The second is the depth is feet first and above the submariner text.  A third aspect is the F and the T are aligned in the middle.  All the other versions which apparently there are 3-5 have the Submariner text above the depth in feet.  I don’t have any examples to share.  But I believe the Maxi MK I is one of the more sought after models commanding a much higher premium than other Maxi dials that came later.

 

So if you are hunting for a unique and very handsome 5513 Maxi dial the MK I is the one to go after if you can find them.  If you have other versions in your collection please feel free to share them and enjoy them with us here in the forum.

 



Rolex 5513 Maxi dial mk I
Rolex 5513 Maxi dial mk I



Rolex maxi Type 1 / mkI dial lume plots touch index markers
Rolex maxi Type 1 / mkI dial lume plots touch index markers



Rolex 5513 maxi
Rolex 5513 maxi





Correct Rolex 5513 maxi with depth above Submariner text F and T aligned
Correct Rolex 5513 maxi with depth above Submariner text F and T aligned



Finally the Rolex 5513 Comex no Logo (left) next to the Rolex 5513 Maxi MK I (right)







Thanks for reading.

Bill


PS all pictures shot on Iphone 6 and edited and posted using Iphone 6.  Pretty fun.  Put the text first and appended the images with captions.

About the Rolex Rolex Submariner Date Ref. 1680

The Rolex Submariner reference 1680 is notable as the first Submariner model to feature a date complication, marking a significant evolution for the line. Introduced in the late 1960s, it bridged the gap between the earlier no-date Submariners and later iterations, offering enhanced functionality while retaining the robust characteristics of the professional tool watch. This reference is distinguished by its single cyclops date magnifier on the crystal, a feature that would become a hallmark of many subsequent Rolex models.

This reference typically features a 40mm steel case, housing the self-winding Caliber 1575 movement. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 48 hours. The crystal is acrylic, commonly referred to as Plexiglas, contributing to its vintage aesthetic. Water resistance for the 1680 is rated at 200 meters, consistent with its design as a reliable underwater instrument.

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Specifications

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Case
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Diameter
40mm
Dial
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Water Resist.
200m
Crystal
Acrylic (Plexiglas)

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AM
amanico
Sep 16, 2015
What I never understood is why this dial is called MK 1. WWW

If we are thinking about it, MK1 should be related to the first matte dial, then the Meters First issued in 1967. But the 5513 is a great watch, Mk 1, 2, 3 or 10, it doesn't matter. A nice gilt dial and a matte one, and you have two good reasons to be happy. Aaaah, maybe you have more than 2 good reasons? :) Best, Nicolas

BI
Bill
Sep 16, 2015
MK1 in the Maxi category.

Just to separate it from all the other variations. If not we would have MK9 10,11 etc. Hard to create classification but the maxi is a particular dial. But you may be right that the other dials that came later Submariner text over the depth are maybe not really a maxi dial. More questions to ask and problems to serve. I am sure we will have some member opinions. Bill

AM
amanico
Sep 16, 2015
Interesting topic, Bill. I am curious to see what the others have to say, too. Thanks. [nt]

GE
gensiulia
Sep 16, 2015
argh, i wrote a long post...

...but I was wrong to click page back, so i lost everything. So, more quickly: for me is an error to call this dial "pre-Comex". is not pre at all, let me explain my point: as you know very well Bill, the first batch for 5513 Comex with NO LOGO were fitted with standard serifs feet first dial...and also with no serifs, but you can't find one 5513/14 Comex NO LOGO with the so called "pre-Comex" dial. maybe we should call it "comex graphic" instead "pre-comex" because the dial is the very same for

BI
Bill
Sep 16, 2015
I agree with you. I don't think Pre Comex makes any sense.

I also agree that these maxi dials seem to be left from other military or special orders Rolex made. So the used what was left on the civilian models and I also think as you probably at service or some other request buy some person or retailer I don't know. But I am with you on all the points you made. You comments make this little report a good reference for the future. Best Bill PS sorry about the back. Need to figure out how note to lose data. will test .

AM
amanico
Sep 16, 2015
Very interesting, Chris. Between you and Bill, we have a reference post to archive. [nt]

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