Rolex Collection Evaluation: Vintage Refinements
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Rolex Collection Evaluation: Vintage Refinements

By Baron - Mr Red · Nov 23, 2016 · 66 replies
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Baron - Mr Red shares his thoughtful journey of refining his Rolex collection over three years, driven by concerns over radioactive emissions, the rise of sophisticated counterfeits, and the increasingly commercial nature of the vintage market. His post details the six iconic vintage Rolex references he chose to retain, offering a candid look into the challenges and personal motivations behind a significant collection overhaul.

The last three years have been a period of transition for my watch collection. Three years ago, I took the decision to reduce the size of my collection of vintage Rolex and increase the size of other manufacturers in my collection. Three factors drove that decision. First, i investigated in some detail, the risks of owning watches with high radioactive emissions. I published those risks on this forum. The risks are, in my view, considerable. Hence, any radium watch in my collection (Rolex or otherwise) was to be sold. Second, the capacity of the ability of unscrupulous dealers to provide counterfeit vintage Rolex has risen enormously (along with the price of vintage Rolex, it would seem). I was told by a couple of friends who are also very good dealers that they are no longer confident of evaluating a genuine vintage rarity from one that has been "manufactured" to look like a vintage rarity. The conmen have become so good that their watches are beating the experts. That makes me feel very uncomfortable. Thirdly, as the price of vintage Rolex has risen exponentially, so too has an unhealthy "capitalist spirit" that typically accompanies such price moves. Put another way..... dealing in vintage Rolex has become an unpleasant business. Dealing with other collectors always remains my preferred route to either buy or sell, but inevitably, the broad dealer/collector base gets involved and its never particularly pleasant. Numerous law suits fly around as unscrupulous dealers get taken to court for abusing their position of trust. I don't need to name names.....they are all readily available to see on the internet.

So....my decision three years ago was to reduce the size of my vintage collection.

The question I faced was which watches to keep and which to sell? (As well as which watches to buy in their place!)

These six now represent the core of my vintage collection. Right or wrong, these are the ones I decided to keep for various reasons.














A 6239 PN Daytona, a Mk2 Patent pending DRSD, a 1675 Panda GMT, a 1019 Milgauss, a 16660 Sea-Dweller and a 1655 straighthand Explorer II.

These six cover the bases.....but they also carry with them a lot of great memories.

I will add too that in most cases, I get a tremendous thrill from wearing them. When a watch can call me from the safebox so much that I need to travel into London to get it, then the watch has a good future with me.

About the Rolex GMT Ref. 1675

The GMT-Master reference 1675 is a significant model in the brand's history, representing an evolution from earlier GMT-Master references. It was produced for an extended period, allowing for numerous dial, bezel, and hand variations throughout its production run. This reference is notable for its introduction of crown guards, enhancing the watch's robustness and contributing to its distinct profile. It solidified the GMT-Master's design language, which would influence subsequent generations.

This reference features a 40mm case, available in stainless steel, yellow gold, or a two-tone combination of steel and yellow gold. It is powered by the automatic Caliber 1575, a chronometer-certified movement known for its reliability and a power reserve of approximately 42 hours. The watch is fitted with an acrylic crystal and offers a water resistance of 50 meters, suitable for everyday wear. The bidirectional rotating bezel, typically with an aluminum insert, displays a 24-hour scale.

For collectors, the 1675 is highly sought after due to its long production period and the resulting variety of configurations, including different dial types (gilt, matte), hand styles, and bezel colors (Pepsi, all-red, all-black). Its four-digit reference number and acrylic crystal are key characteristics that define it as a vintage Rolex. The reference appeals to those interested in the historical development of the GMT-Master line and the nuances of vintage watch collecting.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal. 1575
Case
Yellow Gold
Diameter
40mm
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
50m
Crystal
Acrylic

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mahesh
Nov 23, 2016

I\'m not sure if you decide to sell them bcos you look for new or only bcos of the 3 points you\'ve stated. At any point, external situation is not in our control - so if you like your watches, jus hold on to them... they\'re wonderful ! If you\'re worried about the bubble, I would first let go the Daytona - IMHO the biggest bubble in Vintage rolex today ;-) Personally I like the Explorer, Milgauss & the GMT in your collection ! Best, mahesh.,

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Ares501 - Mr Green
Nov 23, 2016

it looks like you had more radioactivity than Chernobyl Some excellent points as always dear Joe but I was sure you will not part with that exclamation Sub...that one was a killer Yours D

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Baron - Mr Red
Nov 23, 2016

...not sure why you think there is an ulterior motive.... .....i was being genuine in giving the reasons for the rationalisation process. Without any doubt, the radium issue led me to sell any watch i had with radium on its dial. I think those that know me also know that was a big factor. But the other two factors were also important. I am a hedge fund manager....bubbles come and go. I pay attention to them for asset markets......but not for watches. It does shock me to see the price of PNs. I a

MA
mahesh
Nov 23, 2016

not doubting your intent, my thoughts are only if you\'re worried about the bubble. I just see a wonderful collection & the effort/time behind - just felt it is worth holding to Best, mahesh.,

BA
Baron - Mr Red
Nov 23, 2016

.....if it had, and i was influenced by it...then plausibly yes, the PN would be a candidate for selling. But the PN carries some great memories for me.....so is effectively on a no-sell list.

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crown comfort
Nov 23, 2016

knowing how emotionally hard it must have been. Knowing some of the watches you added recently, I surely think it was overall a very good move and you still have the essential bases covered on Rolex. Pleasurable read. CC

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