Rolex GMT-Master II 16760 'Fat Lady' Guide
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Rolex GMT-Master II 16760 'Fat Lady' Guide

By Baron - Mr Red · Jul 19, 2018 · 48 replies
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Baron - Mr Red continues his acclaimed series on identifying future classic Rolex watches from the 1990-2018 era, turning his attention to the Rolex GMT-Master II Ref. 16760. This installment delves into the unique attributes and historical significance that position the "Fat Lady" as a strong candidate for future collectibility, offering collectors a detailed guide to its distinguishing features.

The first in this series of articles looked at identifying watches from the 1990-2018 era that could become future classics. Part 1 highlighted the Rolex Submariner 16610LV.

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This article, Part 2 of 8 will look at the Rolex GMT-Master II 16760. It has many factors that also point towards it becoming a future classic.

First, I am highlighting below the criteria that I used in the first article to guide my thinking.

A number of criteria form what it takes to be a future classic. In my view, it would roughly comprise the following:

  • Of limited production thereby making it reasonably hard to find. Supply needs to be of a sufficient number to make the hunt realistic, but hard enough to make it a test.
  • Within a specific reference, there is usually some distinguishing factor that separates one type of dial from another. The rarer the dial variant, the more in-demand it will be.

I think it is fair to say that it isn’t necessary to tick every box but is important to tick enough of them. The 16760 certainly does that. The 16760 was in production for just five years from 1983 to 1988. OK, that is a little out of my original remit of the past thirty years, but only just!! The 16760 was:

  • immediately notable for its more prominent, thicker case - nicknamed the "Fat Lady" or the "Sophia Loren"
  •  the very first GMT-Master II

These factors make the 16760 an important watch for Rolex in terms of its history. It marks a lot of "firsts".

The 16760 also has a dial quirk to it too.  A very small percentage of 16760s were made with a dial that reads “Oyster Perpetual” underneath the coronet and Rolex. In other words, it misses the word “date”. Most dials have “Oyster Perpetual Date” but a few just have “Oyster Perpetual”.  

How rare is the 16760? Well, if you type in Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 in Chrono, you will likely get around 400 hits of watches for sale. If you do the same for the Rolex GMT-Master II16760, you will see around 15 for sale globally. How many “no-date” versions? Maybe one or two. This is a rare watch either with or without the dial anomaly. Yet it is not exactly priced like a future classic. In fact, most 16760s are priced below where a modern GMT would be priced. I see this watch as very likely to become more and more appreciated as collectors see it for what it is. It has many of the features that collectors deem as attractive. And importantly, it is still priced at a great level for what is an important GMT that is also relatively hard to find. I would say that it matters to me to find one in great condition and with proper box and papers. How many of those are out there?

Very few.

Yes, this is a modern Rolex that thoroughly deserves its place on my list of “future classics”. 







Date versus "No-Date" versions

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About the Rolex 1665 Ref. 1665

The Rolex Sea-Dweller reference 1665 is a significant model within the brand's professional tool watch lineage, distinguished by its enhanced water resistance compared to contemporary Submariner models. This reference was developed to meet the demands of professional saturation divers, featuring a helium escape valve (HEV) integrated into the case side, a key differentiator from other Rolex dive watches of its era. It represents a period of innovation in deep-sea horology, offering a robust solution for extreme underwater environments.

This reference features a 40 mm stainless steel case, designed for durability and resistance to high pressures. It is powered by the automatic Caliber 1575, a chronometer-certified movement known for its reliability and precision, offering a power reserve of approximately 42 to 48 hours. The watch is fitted with an acrylic crystal, contributing to its water resistance rating of 610 meters, and typically features a black dial with luminous hour markers.

For collectors, the reference 1665 is notable for its functional design and its place in the evolution of professional dive watches. Early examples, often referred to as "Double Red Sea-Dweller" (DRSD) due to two lines of red text on the dial, are particularly sought after. Later versions feature all-white text. The presence of the helium escape valve and its robust construction make it a distinct and historically important piece for those interested in the development of specialized timekeeping instruments.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal. 1575
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
40 mm
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
610m
Crystal
Acrylic

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ImranLondon
Jul 19, 2018

I prefer Sophia Lauren, she was beautiful and the definition of elegance, just like 16760

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Joepny
Jul 19, 2018

But to be thoroughly convinced, I really need to see Imran post a pic of 16760 with jubilee bracelet...😆

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Arie - Mr Orange
Jul 19, 2018

Well I can find one for the price of a brand new Ford Fiesta. Never knew that the word ‘date’ was that expensive. So now I kind of understand that Nicolas hates the date. It costs money! Kidding aside, thank you (again) for a very informative document and a potential start of a divorce...

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Baron - Mr Red
Jul 19, 2018

.....the no-date is just extremely rare. The date version with B&P is hard enough. The positive side is that it is not more expensive than a modern one.

KO
kolosstt
Jul 19, 2018

Thanks for the very clear explanation. Mine is not a perfect collector piece but it is real and honest to me.

AR
Arie - Mr Orange
Jul 19, 2018

Although Jeremy Clarkson was quite taken by it (the 2016 ST that is)

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