Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 vs. Deepsea
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Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 vs. Deepsea

By SJX · Jan 8, 2010 · 41 replies
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SJX reflects on the enduring appeal of the Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 and its outgoing brethren, lamenting their discontinuation in favor of the larger Deepsea. This article delves into the Sea-Dweller's history, its 'over-engineered' reputation, and its unique charm as a purpose-built tool watch, sparking a lively debate among collectors about Rolex's evolving design philosophy.

For most of its life the Sea-Dweller never sold particularly well because it was too thick and too heavy for the ordinary consumer. And the Submariner could be bought for less and it looked nearly identical. In fact, on the secondary market the Sea-Dweller 16600 went for almost the same as the Submariner 16610 for the longest time.

 



 



 

 

Then in 2008 Rolex replaced the Sea-Dweller with the colossal Sea-Dweller Deep Sea, sparking off a rabid but brief frenzy as folks fell over themselves to acquire the departed Sea-Dweller. But deliveries of the Sea-Dweller continued until mid-2009, with the last being V-series Sea-Dwellers delivered in 2009 (Rolex collectors track the serial number letters with an embarrassing obsession), which were the absolute last of the Sea-Dweller.

 

Often one sees the Sea-Dweller being described as being “over engineered”. I dispute that. The Sea-Dweller was an elegant and sufficient solution to a problem, while the neurotically over engineered DeepSea appears to be an answer to a question no one asked.

 

But in some respects the Sea-Dweller is only adequate or even insufficient; the bracelet, for example, could be a lot better. Yet the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

 

The story of the Sea-Dweller is well known: the watch was originally conceived for Compagnie Maritime d'Expertise, better known as COMEX, a French deep-sea engineering firm. The first watches provided to COMEX were stock Rolex ref. 5513 Submariners with a helium escape valve drilled into the side of the case; this was necessary for saturation diving as helium would enter the watch case and require release during decompression.

 



 

From 1970 to 1997 Rolex supplied COMEX with a variety of Sea-Dweller and Submariner models, all of which are outrageously valuable today. Nearly all the models supplied to COMEX (except the ref. 5514) were also sold to civilians with the only difference being the lack of the COMEX lettering and numbers on the dial and back.

 

Rolex’s partnership with COMEX was arguably the last of relationships that created watches made for specific professions. Those included the collaboration with Pan American Airways, which produced the GMT-Master, as well as the Royal Navy and resulting military Submariner. PanAm no longer exists while COMEX has been taken over. Rolex has survived and prospered but it has evolved and makes a different kind of watch.

 



 

 

The Sea-Dweller, along with the Explorer I and II and the steel Submariners, is thus one of the last remnants of the Rolex of the last century, when the company made fairly serious watches for serious minded folk. Oddly enough, the most distinctive feature of these old-style watches is their rinky dink bracelets.

 



 

 

Such bracelets were acceptable forty years ago when the Oyster bracelet was introduced but times changed and they did not. They possess contemptible stamped steel clasps and hollow centre links, and have long been derided by collectors as the weak link in a Rolex sports watch. Yet these bracelets do their job well with little fuss.

 

For the longest time the Sea-Dweller had the best bracelet of all the sports Rolex watches, it was thicker, heavier and generally more solid, and it even sported the much vaunted solid end links since the eighties. As a testament to how glacially Rolex evolves, it took the company another 20 years to add solid end links to the bracelets of the other sports watches.

 

The old style sports watches stand in stark contrast to the current range of Rolex sports models which are beautifully built and beautifully polished. The new spring-loaded clasp found in the GMT-Master II and other sports models is a brilliant design. But the whole watch is so well made and so shiny it feels almost jewel-like, more for passengers in first class than the pilots – not that most Rolex wearers were pilots or deep sea divers.

 

As a wise friend of mine pointed out, sand and grit accumulated from diving and other rigorous activities could be rinsed off easily and the old clasp wouldn’t be any worse for the wear; imagine grains of sand getting stuck in the new spring-loaded clasp and the scraping and scratching that would ensure.

 

Rumours abound that the current steel Submariners and Explorers will be replaced at Baselworld 2010. Imperfect as they are, the outgoing Rolex models have a quaint charm that is extremely and mysteriously compelling. They will be missed.

 

- SJX

 



 




About the Rolex Submariner Ref. 5513

The Rolex Submariner reference 5513 is a notable example within the Submariner line, distinguished by its two-line dial and lack of a date complication. Produced for an extended period, it represents a core offering for collectors seeking a straightforward and robust tool watch. Its design emphasizes legibility and functionality, aligning with the original purpose of the Submariner series. This reference is recognized for its consistent aesthetic throughout its production run, with subtle variations in dial text and bezel inserts.

The watch features a 40mm stainless steel Oyster case, offering durability and water resistance suitable for its intended use. Powering the reference 5513 is the automatic Caliber 1520 movement, known for its reliability. The crystal is acrylic, contributing to the vintage character of the watch. The unidirectional rotating bezel, typically with an aluminum insert, allows for elapsed time measurement.

For collectors, the reference 5513 is a significant model due to its long production history and the various dial iterations, such as gilt and matte dials, which present distinct collecting opportunities. Its appeal lies in its foundational design and its position as a non-date Submariner, making it a desirable piece for those who appreciate the model's original form. The watch is often paired with an Oyster bracelet, completing its functional aesthetic.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.1520
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
40mm
Dial
Black gilt
Water Resist.
200m
Crystal
Acrylic

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AM
amanico
Jan 8, 2010

A lot of food for thought ! I will be one of those who will regret the Explorers and Subs, IF they are really discontinued, which we'll know soon, well, in a pair of months. They are timeless pieces, whose charm is indeed difficult to describe. A page is turned, and all the problem is to know if the new models will be as iconic as those we're afraid to see discontinued. If you look at what happened to the Explo II ref 1655, it never sold well, till...nowadays. There is some Irony, here, which ma

SJ
SJX
Jan 8, 2010

Hi Nicolas, A couple of points in response: The Yacht-master also was the first to have the polished case (top and sides) that is now standard on the Daytona, GMT-Master II etc. As for SD vs. Submariner pricing, I was referring to the last 16600 and 16610, not the matte dial vintage models. - SJX

AM
amanico
Jan 8, 2010

You're absolutely correct about the YM... That makes all the interest of this watch, a kind of precursor. I misread you, I thought you were speaking IN GENERAL, about the Sea Dweller and the SUB. I didn't get that you spoke about the modern production, well, should we call them NÊo Modern, now? Thanks for the correction. Best, Nicolas

AN
Anatol
Jan 8, 2010

The Rolex tool watches originate from a time when precise time keeping under extreme conditions became necessary and was not universally available. Up until the 80ies you could really argue that you bought a tool and this was reflected in the design: matte surfaces, external parts that are easily replaceable - and at low cost. Today, divers use computers, the militaries use Casio - no need for a Rolex tool watch. But the desire for adventure lives on in the rich and beautiful of the world, and a

DR
dreamer
Jan 8, 2010

You both offered very interesting points on these models.

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Rob
Jan 8, 2010

very NICELY written too!! Indeed, we are witnessing the end of an era...

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