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Daniel (mrds) initiates a crucial discussion on Speake-Marin, a brand that, despite its respected past, has seen significant shifts. His inquiry into the contemporary state of the maison, particularly regarding the new Ripple model, finishing quality, and in-house movements, provides a vital starting point for collectors to assess the brand's current trajectory and value proposition in a competitive market.
Calling out to the owners and fans of Speke-Marin.
I stumbled across the new Ripple while browsing and found it a quite attractive entry into the overcrowded sports watch sector.
Now, I don’t know anything about Speake-Marin as a company. I am familiar with the Piccadilly of ca. 20 years ago but I understand the man himself has left some time ago. What is your take on the maison and the brand today? What about the quality of their work, especially on the finishing side? They talk (of course) about inhouse movements - any info on how they work?
Thanks in advance for your insights!
Best,
Daniel
Key Points from the Discussion
- The Ripple's design, while attractive, is perceived by some as an uninspired entry into the integrated bracelet sports watch segment, lacking the distinctiveness of Speake-Marin's earlier work.
- The departure of founder Peter Speake-Marin has led to concerns about the brand's direction and commitment, with some collectors feeling it signals a move towards capitalizing on the brand rather than genuine horological evolution.
- Despite criticisms of the Ripple's originality, its case design, proportions, and clean dial are subjectively appealing to some, prompting a desire for information on the underlying movement quality.
- The brand was acquired by the daughter of the Carrefour supermarket brand, leading to a change in dynamics and reduced presence among authorized dealers, though the Ripple model itself is found 'quite lovely' by some.
- Peter Speake-Marin left the company with his business partner Daniela Marin due to the stresses of operating an independent watchmaking company, with CEO Christelle Rosnoblet subsequently taking over. The brand now focuses on custom pieces and small, expensive collections.
- The founder's subsequent ventures into inexpensive quartz or basic Seiko movements are seen by some as a regrettable departure from his exceptional haute horology talent.
- The Ripple is described as thin, comfortable, and visually more appealing in person, with a comfort level comparable to or exceeding that of an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15500, despite similar sizing.
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