Tudor Black Bay, Pelagos, Ranger Models Guide
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Tudor Black Bay, Pelagos, Ranger Models Guide

By quattro · Apr 24, 2025 · 31 replies
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Emmanuel, known as quattro on WatchProSite, offers a hands-on review of five Tudor models, providing invaluable insights for collectors considering these references. His detailed observations, particularly on wearability and aesthetic nuances, serve as a critical resource for understanding Tudor's current lineup. This article distills his initial impressions and the community's subsequent discussion, highlighting key considerations for each watch.

A few weeks ago, I visited a Tudor Boutique and here's what I was able to have a look at.


1/ The PELAGOS ULTRA, ref. M2543C1A7NU-0001 powered by Calibre MT5612-U

As surprising as it may seem from someone like me who is very much focused on colored gold dress watches, I've always loved the Pelagos and have been tempted by the regular blue dial variant (ref. M25600TB-0001).

The 43 x 14.5 mm case of the Ultra is unfortunately too large for my wrist, but I liked it very much nonetheless: the matte black dial with light green "Pelagos" looks aesthetically perfect and I liked very much the fact that the notched inner minutes flange that frames the applied markers on the regular versions has been replaced with a more classic angled réhaut. Lastly, contrarily to many Black Bay models, the Pelagos Ultra has kept its snowflake seconds hand (not replaced by a lollypop).

So, it's really a diver I wish I could pull off better...















As a comparison, here's how the 42 x 14.3 mm case of the regular blue version (ref. M25600TB-0001) and the 39 x 11.8 mm case of the Pelagos 39 (ref. M25407N-0001) looks on my wrist (sorry for the bad screenshots of videos from 2023). 









The Pelagos 39 is of course much more suited to my smallish wrist, but I personally dislike the sunburst black dial.








2/ The OPALINE DIAL BLACK BAY PRO, ref. M79470-0006 powered by Calibre MT5652

This watch looks really nice, but I found it a bit too thick for its size (39 x 14.6 mm) and preferred the black dial variant (ref. M79470-0001), which I could also try on.
















3/ The BLACK BAY 54, ref. M79000N-0001 powered by Calibre MT5400

Even if the fit (37 x 11.2 mm) was perfect for my wrist, I didn't respond at all to the shape and aesthetic of this watch: the lugs seem to me to be excessively long for the restrained diameter of the dial and bezel. And the vintage vibe, which Tudor has created very successfully on other models, somehow felt a bit "artificial" to me on this particular one (just my feeling of course). Also, I personally like the lollypop seconds hands with its round ended counterweight less than the snowflake seconds hand (which, sadly, is progressively replaced by the lollypop one on many Black Bay models).








4/ The RANGER ref. M79950-0001 powered by Calibre MT5402

The fit (39 x 12 mm) was good, but the "field watch" aesthetic, even if very well executed, didn't speak to me.








5/ The BLACK BAY 58 BRONZE ref. M79012M-0001 powered by Calibre MT5400

To say that I liked this particular timepiece would be an understatement: I loved it to the point that I was tempted to buy it instantly. Why? Because I'm enamoured with warm colors and the bronze case and bracelet with the brown dial and bezel felt absolutely wonderful to me (btw, the case is 39 x 11.9 mm).

I wasn't able to try on the complementary "brown-bronze" fabric strap with yellow center-line which comes with it, but I could try on the 925 Silver variant with its taupe fabric strap (ref. M79010SG-0002) and it convinced me that it would look absolutely perfect (see photos below).

I know that bronze tarnishes and I've even heard some owners say that this bronze watch ends up smelling like the metal variant of a wet dog, but it was by far my favorite, with the Pelagos Ultra.















Thanks for reading!

Best, Emmanuel

About the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Jumbo Ref. 5402

The Royal Oak reference 5402 is recognized as the original iteration of the model, introduced in 1972. This reference established the design language that would define the Royal Oak collection, characterized by its integrated bracelet and octagonal bezel secured by visible screws. It was initially presented as a luxury sport watch, distinguishing itself through its material and finishing in a period dominated by more traditional dress watch aesthetics. The 5402 was produced in various series, with the A-series being the earliest and most sought after by collectors.

The watch features a 39mm stainless steel case, often referred to as the "Jumbo" size, which was considered substantial for its era. It houses the self-winding Caliber 2121, a thin movement derived from Jaeger-LeCoultre's Caliber 920, known for its full-rotor design. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 40 hours. The crystal protecting the dial is acrylic, and the watch offers a water resistance of 50 meters, suitable for general wear.

For collectors, the reference 5402 holds significance as the foundational model of a major watch series. Its various production series (A, B, C, D) present nuances in dial text and case back engravings that are closely examined. The integrated steel bracelet is an integral part of its design, contributing to its distinct profile. The blue dial, often with a "tapisserie" pattern, is a hallmark of this early reference, though other dial variations exist.

Specifications

Caliber
2121
Case
Stainless steel
Diameter
39 mm
Dial
Blue
Water Resist.
50m
Crystal
Acrylic

Key Points from the Discussion

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The Discussion
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Marc Obermann
Apr 24, 2025

OK so I get the Pelagos Ultra is a WR of 1000m but the rest are mostly just 200m WR and again most are just simple 3 handers why do they need to be so thick? The only thing I can think of is that Rolex mandate this to stop Tudor from eating their lunch and stealing all their business. Marc

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Mary Anny
Apr 24, 2025

I look forward to seeing the new 58, especially a black-dial version, if they ever make one!

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quattro
Apr 24, 2025

And maybe thickness is indeed a way to "protect" Rolex... Best, Emmanuel

QU
quattro
Apr 24, 2025

I personally didn't like the glowy dial and didn't even ask to try it on. But I've posted some live photos found online here if you want to have a look. Best, Emmanuel

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quattro
Apr 24, 2025

I personally didn't respond to this model. Best, Emmanuel

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blau
Apr 24, 2025

It was charming and affordable enough for me to grab one used... but I just didn't end up loving it, and you are giving the exact reasons why. The Ranger is the missed opportunity here: why is Tudor still making that watch 39mm? They should have sized it down like the Explorer to 36 or, even better, pushed the envelope in size by offering it in 34mm.

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