Vacheron Constantin 4178 Vintage Analysis
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Vacheron Constantin 4178 Vintage Analysis

By CL · May 26, 2019 · 50 replies
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CL initiates a critical discussion around a Vacheron Constantin 4178, inviting expert opinions on its condition and market appeal. This post serves as a valuable case study for vintage watch authentication, highlighting the complexities of assessing originality, restoration, and value. The ensuing debate underscores the importance of meticulous inspection and informed decision-making in vintage collecting.

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This is a very beautiful piece but like most 4178, it just sits with the dealer as people are afraid to commit.
Can we use this piece for a discussion and let us know what you think? I'm curious what can be learned from this.















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Tim_M
May 26, 2019

Assuming cash funding is in place and you enjoy the model, the only reason not to would be a different watch that you enjoy more. It's not another vintage Daytona, and thank God or gods for that. Questions to ask: Have you worn a 4178? Does the size work for you? Are you rough on watches or otherwise of a user profile that doesn't fit the limits of vintage? Some of those movement parts clearly have led a hard life, and a few might have been recruited from less finished versions of this caliber,

LS
LS
May 26, 2019

Perhaps the listing price is just too high to justify purchase knowing that significant restoration work will likely be required.

CL
CL
May 26, 2019

patek 2526, ref96, Vintage Grand Seiko... so size wise, it does fit. When I had Dufour simplicities, I had both 37mm and 34mm which I preferred the latter. I ordered a 38mm Kari Observatoir and I sold it right away because it felt big while a 38mm Journe tourbillon and 39mm Credor Eichi feels right. So , I think sometimes the diameter can be very deceiving and you are correct that I should at least try the 4178 on my wrist which I hadn't.

CL
CL
May 26, 2019

that the movement has issues? Is it because it looks old. If so, that can be serviced. I'm not familiar with Vacheron servicing. Is it on par with Patek in term of price wise or a lot more expensive?

LS
LS
May 27, 2019

First, please understand that I have no training as a watch maker or in watch repair. However, since you requested my opinion on why I believe the movement may have issues I will supply. Also, I fully understand that there may be reasonable explanations, such as poor lighting, image resolution, or being only cosmetic, for all of these issues. But I have only the pictures to go on. And to me, they speak to the general level of repair and handling of the watch, and inform my opinion of what condit

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anon438
May 27, 2019

Sum up, a lot of questionmarks and red traffic lights. Maybe Vacheron won't accept it at all?

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