Vintage Movement Re-casing: Sacrilege or Revival?
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Vintage Movement Re-casing: Sacrilege or Revival?

By ArthurSG · May 1, 2012 · 62 replies
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ArthurSG initiates a discussion on the controversial practice of re-casing vintage movements into bespoke watches, inspired by a Thomas Prescher piece. He explores whether this constitutes 'sacrilege' among vintage collectors, particularly considering his own project to create three watches for his children using esteemed vintage movements like the Longines 13ZN, Omega 30T2RG, and Zenith Caliber 135. This post invites community perspectives on preserving horological heritage versus creative reinterpretation.

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Not sure if anyone saw Darren’s beautiful bespoke piece he had Thomas Prescher create with a vintage Zenith movement in the AHCI section ( http://ahci.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-16/pi-5270788/ti-787468/s-0/ wink but I kinda like it and thought it’s a nice way to revive some great movements.

Or is it?

What do vintage collectors or collectors in general think of this?

I was kinda thinking of doing the same in a series of 3 for my 3 kids with what are considered (I read that is) to be 3 great vintage movements in the likes of:

Longines 13ZN

 
Omega 30T2RG





Zenith Cal 135



I did think of the Peseux 260 and the Valjoux (I think) VZSS movements but they seem to be really tough to find.

So is this considered a sacriledge in the vintage collecting world? 



 

About the Horological Meandering Ref. Cal135

The Zenith Caliber 135 is a manually wound chronometer-grade movement produced by Zenith, notably from 1949 to 1962. It is recognized for its large balance wheel and oversized barrel, designed to optimize chronometric performance. This caliber was primarily housed in wristwatches, often achieving high distinctions in observatory trials. Its robust construction and precision engineering made it a significant movement in mid-20th century horology. The Caliber 135 is a testament to Zenith's commitment to accuracy and technical excellence during a period of intense competition in chronometer development. It remains a sought-after movement among collectors for its historical importance and mechanical integrity.

Specifications

Caliber
135
Diameter
30mm

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AM
amanico
May 1, 2012
Some Independants already did it, and did anybody complain?

But it would be much more affordable to find these 3 Real Mac Coys, IMO. A Zenith Cal 135 can be found, as well as a 13 ZN and an Omega 30 T 2. Peseux 260 can be found in some watches such as the Be Ba, not common, but some are spotting from time to time. There are some very nice Vintage JLC movements to consider, too, as well as Longines, and not only in the Chronographs. Best, Nicolas

AR
ArthurSG
May 1, 2012
Agree Nico

I've found my Cal 135 and am looking for the other 2. If you have suggestions for worthy movements, pls do so.

AM
amanico
May 2, 2012
Omega 30 T 2, JLC Cal 450 / 488 / 478 / 479, 494, IWC Cal 89

There are more than 2 or 3 to get, my friend, without forgetting these Vintage Longines Chronometers... Exciting thema! Best, Nicolas

AR
ArthurSG
May 2, 2012
I've been looking at the Cal 89

together with the 83 and 88 as well. As for the Longines Chronometre movement, which do you suggest? I think Kari used the 360 for his Cal 27? Longines seem to come up strong for their chrono movements in the 13ZN followed by the 30H (some alphabet). Thanks for the suggestions on the JLC movements. I will look them up.

AM
amanico
May 2, 2012
The Longines movements are famous for their Chronographs, but they

Are not bad with their Chronmeters, either. I am working on this topic, to say all.... Best, Arthur. Nicolas

AR
ArthurSG
May 2, 2012
Which particular calibre(s) Nico?

For the Longines Chronometres.

Available on the marketplace

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