Watch Water Resistance Ratings & Swimming Guide
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Watch Water Resistance Ratings & Swimming Guide

By ThomasM · Aug 23, 2016 · 30 replies
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ThomasM addresses persistent misconceptions surrounding watch water resistance ratings, particularly the debate over whether a 30-meter rated watch is safe for swimming. He seeks to clarify industry standards and debunk common 'pop wisdom' by gathering direct feedback from watch manufacturers, aiming to provide accurate information to the WatchProSite community.

Water Resistance ratings and applications

ThePuristS and PuristSPro / WatchProSite has always been about the right information, all the time, in addition to Passion and Opinion.


No one, not even me smile has all the answers, all the time, but it has always been my hope that, with integrity and sincerity; a certain amount of humility that we might not know it all, and a certain healthy skepticism not only about industry marketing claims, but also against the pop wisdom of self appointed experts whose qualifications are based on early internet vetting standards - say something long enough, loud enough, and sooner or later it starts to carry the weight of "truth" on the net, whether it is in fact "true" or not.


But with integrity, sincerity, humility, and healthy skepticism, plus the 100's of thousands of fellow Purists' eyeballs, I hope correct accurate information will find its way to the fore sooner rather than later around here, industry commercial agendas, brand equity, marketing hype, and internet "pop wisdom" notwithstanding. 

A recent thread on the Panerai forum (I tried to cut and paste the direct URL but for some reason the platform software will not allow me to paste the URL into the post)  left me cringing - certain claims were being made about water resistance ratings that just made no sense to me.


Specifically, the statement that a watch with 30meter (c. 100 ft) water resistance rating, if the case is in good original condition, with FRESH and PROPERLY INSTALLED gaskets and seals, should still NOT be safely used for pool swimming, where depths generally do not exceed 30 to 50 feet.

I understand the basic concepts that were used in that argument -

that "moving" water pressures, like an arm wearing a watch would move when swimming, increases effective pressures above and beyond "static" pressures as measured in a water resistance pressure test;

that salt water can be corrosive;

that soap and other chemicals, as well as heat, or cold, can degrade or distort seals and gaskets and thus compromise watch intrusion integrity and thus "actual water resistance."

I also know that "just because it makes sense doesn't make it true."

This last also applies to the basic feeling, indignation, almost, that a watch rated for 100 ft / 30 meter water resistance could possibly NOT be good for reasonable use in less than 50 feet depths.

And so I reached out to friends and contacts within the watch industry...

Following are some of the responses I received; some more blunt and unequivocal than others, but all unanimously agreeing that "if it's rated for 30m water resistance, the case is in good, IN SPEC condition, and the seals and gaskets and other case parts are FRESH AND CORRECTLY INSTALLED, there is no reason to be concerned about pool use with depths up to 50 feet.

Caveats about salt water (rinse with fresh water after use) and possible out of spec cases and case parts (old, damaged); extremes of heat and cold; "unreasonable use"; etc of course were often attached since we all know someone who will take a reasonable statement and stretch it beyond reason.


And what is reasonable anyway?

Enjoy, and interpret as you wish, using your own best judgment.  Me personally?

I don't swim, nor do I wear my watches when I submerge myself in water, but if I did, I would not worry about water and moisture intrusion if the crown in properly seated and the watch case and seals are in good condition.


Your mileage may vary.

(hmm...I was going to cut and paste sample responses from key contacts from various brands, but like trying to cut and paste the URL from the Panerai forum discussion, the platform does not allow me to paste for some reason.

I'm using Windows 10 and MS Edge browser.  Oh, well.)

now tried Firefox and Chrome as well. still no joy.

PHOTO ADDED (MTF) (Thanks MTF but you didn't include the all important comment from the person who sent me the graphic:

Technical Director, product development manager, Company P:

"Here below I'll show you a picture with a totally wrong description on the water resistance specifications... "



(Thanks to MTF but the ALL IMPORTANT COMMENT IS MISSING: added again above graphic)

This message has been edited by ThomasM on 2016-08-23 03:53:41 This message has been edited by ThomasM on 2016-08-23 04:57:05 This message has been edited by ThomasM on 2016-08-23 05:03:21


This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-23 05:09:45 This message has been edited by ThomasM on 2016-08-23 05:24:02

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Pete B
Aug 23, 2016

Might make more sense to you Basically, the pressure testing is done with air, not water pressure. In summary, I quote: ===================== As a quick guide to watch watch resistance we will say this. Watches which have a 30 or 50 meters water resistance are OK for activity such as washing your hands but not much more. At 100 meters of water resistance you should be able to swim in a pool without a problem. 200 meters of water resistance is OK for ocean swimming and activities such as snorkel

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ThomasM
Aug 23, 2016

please go back and read my original thread, which I have updated. I've read many, many of the online articles, including those by active divers writing for other publications, online and otherwise. Many of those publications and writers I do trust and respect. Believe me, I know many / most of them personally. So again, use your own best judgement. Cheers, TM

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BDLJ
Aug 23, 2016

...and the comment regarding the 1500m watch with no Helium valve borders on ignorance. A Helium relief valve has nothing to do with water resistance, beyond being another possible source of a leak. Same applies to the implication that there is a difference between the air pressure and water pressure. Truly puzzling. And until the author can tell me whether the ratings are at STP or gauge, I'll take his tech talk with a pinch of (sea) salt. I don't want to put words in TM's mouth, but isn't this

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ThomasM
Aug 23, 2016

put words in my mouth anytime, my friend! Hope you are doing well, look forward to catching up. TM

TH
ThomasM
Aug 23, 2016

try include graphics and comments. I saved the edits and could see those edits; even now I can see the graphic in the thumbnail. But when I open the thread or original post (OP) I only see the original post, BEFORE the edits to include RETYPED comments from industry friends ad contacts, which should have just been an easy cut and paste. UGH. Oh, well, so 4 (four) retyped comments from private emails may or may not be up above, but just to be sure about THIS graphic, I repost and add the comment

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ThomasM
Aug 23, 2016

cut and paste and my last update with those comments now seem to be lost... :-(==========Company O marketing manager - In short, we have been assured that it can be used in a pool environment as long as it remains below the water resistance level indicated on the case back. ... As always, we advise our customers to make sure to check water resistance once a year if they do use their watch under water and remind them that they should read the technical instructions in each official warranty deliv

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