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Are all the 47mm Luminor correct from an historical point of view?

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We recently had a discussion about the 127, this Luminor Marina in 47mm...

Basically there are only 3 47mm Luminor Marina:

The 127:

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The 217:

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The movement of these 2 Panerai Watches is exactly the same, an ETA, which don't have the same decoration, but this is strictly the same...

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And the special Pam 203:

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Special because this watch has an interesting movement, the Angelus 8 Daysnone Credit pic: Asi ).

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All the 3 watches are related to the History of Panerai, but with some reserves...

The 127 and 217 don't have the right movement.

Here's the one and only one correct movement for these watches: ( Credit pic: Ralf..Thanks, my friend!).

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An Angelus one, as the Angelus was housed on any Luminor equipped with a small second at 9...

If the 127 and 217 were bases, I mean without small seconds, this ETA would have been a correct choice, as very close, esthetically speaking, to the Rolex Cortebert which equipped the 6152, and 6152/1.

In these 127/ 217, the finest choice should have been a Manifattura movement, closer to the angelus than the ETA.

Now that you saw the Vintage Angelus, here's the watch:

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And, while you see this pic, you see another problem...

On All the 6152 equipped with an Angleus movement, you'll never see on the dial the writing " Otto Giorni brevettato", never!

This writing was only to be seen on the Egiptiano 2/ 56:

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So, now you know the answer:

On the 127 / 217, the dial and the case are good, but the design of the movement not, nor the power reserve.

On the 203, the case and the movement are good, but not the writing on the dial which is a confusion with the GPF 2/56 so called Egitiano.

So, it remains one question: Why Panerai didn't do the right things on these 3 watches, which have a strong link with the History of the Brand???

Hope you'll enjoy this quick discussion.

Best.
Nicolas

PS: Sorry for the credit of the other pics, but really don't know who to credit, so please let me know, if you're the author of these pics. I will of course immediately credit you.

Pic Nr 1 to be credited to SCL...Thanks a lot, Mate.

Pic Nr 2 to be credited to William LOI.Thanks, too!

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-07-09 06:14:28

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patrickh July 6th, 2008-04:31
Thanks Nicolas for this critical analysis, I am sure than many purists will appreciate this discussion on Panerai 's historical roots. I also hope Mr BONATI will read it and propose the REAL historical Edidion we are waiting for. Great pics as usual. Cheers, Patrickh
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amanico July 6th, 2008-08:04
Thanks, Patrickh Would like to see a coherent 47mm, without too many writings, and a movement which corresponds at least esthetically, and if horologically, it will be better! Let's see, I'm not too confident, but let's see... Best. Nicolas
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renerod September 28th, 2011-14:07
Ha ha! My friend! You really know how to keep the suspense!!! Like a good old horror movie C'mon, bring it on! Best. René
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amanico September 28th, 2011-14:10
Well, since June 2008, this watch arrived... The 372... Even if its movement is a bit too far from the Rolex cortebert. But aesthetically speaking, it fits the bill! Best, Hermano. Nicolas.
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Ares501 - Mr Green July 6th, 2008-05:43
Why I think because they will do it in one of following SE with beautiful price tag Damjan
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amanico July 6th, 2008-08:11
ROFL, Damian Dreaming is good! Hope all is good for you, and that the child lets you sleep! LOL Best. Nicolas
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Ares501 - Mr Green July 6th, 2008-08:56
Less and less 
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foversta July 6th, 2008-05:50
They don't do exactly the same because... 1) they don't want to do an exact replica 2) because when you do an exact replica, the quest is over : there is no reason to produce other "similar" watches. With this system, Panerai can produce several "imperfect" 47mm Luminor. Fr.Xavier
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amanico July 6th, 2008-08:14
But they present it as an exact replica 
Exupery July 6th, 2008-09:45
historically correct or not... Well, maybe one can dream about more historically correct and even more correct than correct. But I must say I really love this post, it's models and the great great pictures as they are! What more can we wish for? Well, I'm just a PAM-lover and not a col... 
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All we hear on TV in the US is " change " with the presidential race on, so I figured we might as well have a " change " thread here. If you were CEO of Panerai, what change(s) would you make? Changes could be the watches, product line, straps, buckles, location of Boutiques, etc. You name it, you can "change" it since you're CEO now. We should get some interesting answers, and looking forward to reading your "changes" as you make your mark on Panerai ! Cheers, Anthony This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-06-15 11:46:48.


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