Now, here is a nutt for all of you to crack! š
As you all know Zenith's striking 10 watch rotates during 10 sec one complete cycle over the dial.
Why is this 5470 rotating in 12 sec over the dial and not in 10?
The Zenith and the 5470 share the same beat ratio of 36.000 pbh.
I instantly noticed this detail and thought about the reason for that (and no one else of you š§!).
I think, I might have the answer to it ...
I let you all suffer and share your thoughts and will post another thread to explain my thought. Cordially and sadistically Moritz
I let you all suffer and share your thoughts and will post another thread to explain my thought. Cordially and sadistically Moritz
Joke asideā¦
The red marker provides a slightly higher resolution view of the 10th of a second scale, as confusing as it may be. Admittedly a high achievement technically ā¤ļø
Hi Count, maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but given the dial configuration and that the measurement is set at 1/10-th of a second, that's *necessarily* the time for a rotation.... In your model, you'd be measuring *1/12-th* of a second! ;-))
Aaah ... I was then thinking of a different issue
I focused more on the "classic 4 to 8" positions of chronos with two chrono hands.
With 10 sec/rotation this display would not be possible.
You are certainly correct š
With 10 sec/rotation this display would not be possible.
You are certainly correct š
With El Primero the "lightning" chronograph hand indeed does one full rotation over the dial in 10 seconds, while here it takes 12 seconds. It is just a question of the gearing used (how the hand is driven) and gear ratios.
The underlying movement frequency is the same in both cases, being 5 hz or 36'000 bph, i.e. 10 beats or "half-rotations" per second, i.e. the escape wheel advances 10 times per second.
I thought.......
...it was cost cutting from Patek. Using the 1-12 and denominators, a new scale is not required and therefore keeps the cost down for everyone.
So its only it only costs CHF380,000 rather than CHF380,001 with a new separate 1/10th scale
A new, additional scale would have been needed, if it would do a full rotation in 10 sec.
It's Rather Simple Really
For years it's been easy pickings. Just change a dial color and the sheeple lose their minds.
With this new model, PP completes the circle of stupidity.
May The Schwartz Be With You
Naaah ... it is not stupidity. It is luxury. There are people out there who can spend this sort of money for it, like most of us do for a Rolex. Nothing wrong here: it is a highly desirable watch!
Personally, I very much struggle to see the value. Alternatives at around that price, or dare we say lower, are more creative and attractive to me,
Yet agree, there's plenty of currency available right now seeking to be exchanged for physical items. We live in interesting times my friend.
Hi Matt, a short video that is publicly available is for instance the one below on Youtube (more can be found, e.g., at a ' Patek "5470P" ' search):
Note that a (longer) presentation video for this model was originally available on Patek's site (one hour after our announcement here on April 6), so I assume it will eventually be uploaded onto Patek's YT channel ;-) Cheers.
Patek Philippe Ref. 5470P-001 1/10th Second Monopusher Chronograph
Very well done...
...I will look for others that show how the 1/10th second function works...
I like the display Patek has introducedā¦
Itās a very elegant solution that makes the 1/10th reading simple and the external track markings cohabit beautifully. Gorgeous watch!
Iāll be honest
I donāt know how this watch works. How do you get 1/10 of a second when there are 12 positions on the dial? Was waiting for a video or something. Glad Iām not the only idiot who couldnāt figure this outā¦
Well, it is a,bit difficult, yes
... but than not.
Think as it as such:
Patek has made to the naked eye invisible 10 steps/sec moves of the chrono second hand visible by using another hand, that is directly linked to the chrono hands wheel, but rotates faster, because of the used ratio/gear.
Therefore it runs faster and smooth
(no 10 steps/sec anymore, which the grey, other chrono hand still does) over the dial.
Because it needs 12 sec/ rotation, it is perfectly matching the dial segmentation and very confortable for the naked eye now, to see 1/10th of a sec!
It is in essence simple š.
Think as it as such:
Patek has made to the naked eye invisible 10 steps/sec moves of the chrono second hand visible by using another hand, that is directly linked to the chrono hands wheel, but rotates faster, because of the used ratio/gear.
Therefore it runs faster and smooth
(no 10 steps/sec anymore, which the grey, other chrono hand still does) over the dial.
Because it needs 12 sec/ rotation, it is perfectly matching the dial segmentation and very confortable for the naked eye now, to see 1/10th of a sec!
It is in essence simple š.
So for whatever reason, Patek decided not to make another 1/10 second track like Zenith
So it made its chrono hand go 50% slower and just track 1/5 of a second using the existing minute track.
My mistake. There is another 1/10 second track.
So the chrono hand moves at 1/10 of a second. But it takes 12 seconds to complete one revolution around the dial.
The red hand moves of a12th/a minute "speed". Anytime it stops during this speed/journey on the dial, it will stop at a 1/10th position on the dial. Either at a 1/10th mark (white line) or at a 10/10th Mark (red line).
The red hand only and always counts from 1/10th to 10/10th (that is a full second then).
