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Independents: Yes,

I am aware of that, a red kern. This is a CNC mill, and if I recall this one is only 3axis. Only mainplates, bridges and some springs can be done with that. However, (and I just checked on instagram) since may 2019 he now has at least one CNC lathe. This can make screws, wheels, cases.
2Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: Back in the days

Before he moved workshops and bought the CNC lathe, yes. A couple of years ago he posted a picture on instagram with a new CNC lathe. Before that, the case, pinions, as well as wheels were made by hand, on a regular (or even 3) Schaublin 70. Mainplates and bridges were made using a cnc mill. The dia
2Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: It is not the first time we cross path on a thread

And I have to admit I quite enjoy reading your thoughts. One thing is sure, as I happen to make parts by hands, no one can do a pinion without a motor (you can use a steam engine if you want, but still). So IMHO any watchmaker out here that makes his parts on a Schaublin (mine has 2 motors) Aciera,
3Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: IMHO

And looking at where the original insta post comes from, I belive it was not targeted for "Brands" but rather for "watchmakers" (Cramain, Dufour, Coyon, AdC etc). I guess this was intended to shed some light on what is "handmade" and what is not. A lot of people believe for example Dufour is handmad
3Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: For me,

Independent watchmaking rhymes with either HH or in-house production. Let’s say you buy a movement, then design a case, hands and dial, what sets that apart from all of the kickstarter microbrands? You’d be financially independent (i.e not part of a group or holding) but that doesn’t make you on par
3Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: John Mcgonigle

John Mcgonigle who previously worked with his brother started his own company Oilean. The base movement is a Valjoux 88 and retail price is around 24K eur exVAT Best, Tristan
3Y
By: tristan.led
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Patek Philippe: Maybe even

The coaxial escapement Nautilus that he made in order to convice swiss brands (and Patek) to use his escapement
3Y
By: tristan.led
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Independents: words to live by

I do know a bit of Roger's story, workshop, methods etc as I've spent a tiny bit of time in his workshop (before he moved it and bought the cnc lathe). My guess is that it's easier to manufacture escape wheels (co-axial even) and cases on a cnc lathe rather than a cnc mill. Back in 2017, the wheels
3Y
By: tristan.led
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