Girard-Perregaux Management: Market Analysis
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Girard-Perregaux Management: Market Analysis

By this_hobby_of_hours · May 11, 2024 · 98 replies
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In a compelling analysis, forum member this_hobby_of_hours delves into the strategic missteps that have plagued Girard Perregaux (GP) through various ownership changes, particularly highlighting the brand's oversight of the secondary market. This insightful post examines how GP's focus on primary market sales and authorized dealers, rather than understanding the broader ecosystem of luxury watch desirability, has hindered its potential for sustained success. The author challenges the prevailing wisdom, arguing that the secondary market now dictates the primary, a crucial dynamic that GP and its leadership, including current CEO Patrick Pruniaux, have seemingly failed to grasp.

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When Kering bought the Sowind Group in 2011, they had big plans for GP and it’s sister company JDR.

Veteran Michele Sofisti was parachuted in from Kering.

ā€œSofisti-catedā€ … he created a multi-pronged strategy. One centred around clarity of brand and model identity.

And yet, Sofisti lasted as group CEO for only a couple of years. He transferred back to Gucci and eventually left Kering.

We see that 10 hears later, Kering ā€œgave upā€ and removed GP from its stable.

GP has been plagued by many different owners and changes in leadership from around 1980 to current. The 80 year or so ownership under the Graef family seems to have been the longest.

Thr Macaluso family ownership was for about 20 years and considered by purists to be the glory years for GP.

It would be interesting to interview the folks are at Kering to see what went wrong. In effect, Patrick the current CEO of GP (and UN) was part of the Kering group. From 2018 or so, he was responsible both GP and UN. If things looked great for both brands, Kering is not likely to have sold them.

The management team is effectively the same that was in place while Kering had ownership. There are new unnamed private investors now as well.

So Patrick and the team believe that being ā€œindependentā€ will yield a different result. What in specific will be done differently is not yet clear. We are yet to have an interview where a detailed strategy in outlined for GP.

Kering had trouble taking GP back to its rightful horological throne. They also had trouble with UN.

Now Patrick has BOTH brands to worry about.

IMHO …. Here is my personal opinion…

…. Something that I think both Kering and now Patrick seem to have failed to recognize the importance of is this:

The secondary market.

They are still making the same mistakes and thinking of their customers as the Authorized Dealers. They are thinking of themselves as ā€œwholesalersā€. Their eyes are focussed only on the primary market.

This is self-defeating because the secondary market is what fuels the primary market today.

Not the other way round.

Gone are the days when the secondary market is a bunch of small watch shops selling used items.

Treating the secondary market as an afterthought is tantamount to Hollywood moguls thinking that Netflix was just a fad.

I was told by a dealer in America that GP did some ā€œsecretā€ buyback of stock from the secondary market in 2021/22. I can not validate that to be true or not but we know that UN did indeed do a massive stock buyback. All this was done to ā€œcleanā€ the likes or chrono24 and such of stock that was going for pennies on the dollar. This excess stock would often come from the brands themselves selling to wholesalers like Jomashop and such.

So we know that GP was riding high in 2022. Massive demand. Sure, some would say it was all due to the COVID period and the huge demand for integrated sports watches.

I think there is another part too … the market perception of GP brand image was elevated.

Why?

Because you could not get one. On the secondary markets, they were trading at a premium over MSRP. And the the ADs would turn customers to long waitlists.

The fear of losing out. The brag value. The desire for a laureato was immense. The mitigation of risk was removed from value loss.

So what did GP do in 2022 and 2023 ? They got excited and overconfident. They also did not really understand WHY their watches were selling out. Nothing in the watch had changed. It was exactly the same watch as from 2017.

And so in this excitement, they said let’s ride this wave.

Let raise MSRPs.
Let’s tell all ADs no more discounts allowed to customers.
Let’s supply 5 x more Laureatos to thr market.

And they forgot one big thing …

…they forgot to monitor the secondary market. Soon more and more supply and lower prices stated accumulating on chrono24 and such.

They also failed to recognize the importance of auctions and the messaging it sends to collectors when the brand’s watches do not receive attention.













They didn’t and couldn’t control the ADs who started having trouble selling a laureato. They didn’t believe that these same ADs started using the laureato as a sacrifice watch and this was being dumped to the secondary market making matters worse at a time when the entire market was softening.

So again, the answer is right in-front of GP management.

They will fail again if they do not start to take extreme measures to monitor and control prices and supply to the secondary markets that are coming from artificial means by way of the primary markets.

GP management must buy back stock.

GP management must also bid in auctions, especially when it pertains to iconic models. The appeal for many of these watches (such as the Laureato 8010) will be compelling for collectors of the brand re-sells them (with warranty) via a CPO program.

Existing collectors and future collectors WANT TO BUY a GP watch. Management’s lack of a committed focus on the secondary markets is what is causing them to hesitate.

There is a reason why secondary market prices and demand for NEO-vintage GP is stable and rising. Limited supply with no artificial dumping of sacrifice watches.

The opposite is true for current production GP watches.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Read more here:

www.watchtime.com




This message has been edited by India Whiskey Charlie on 2024-05-11 13:56:49

About the Girard-Perregaux Ref. 8010

The Girard-Perregaux Vintage 1994, reference 8010, is a notable entry in the brand's "Vintage" line from the 1990s, distinguished by its rectangular case design that evokes historical watch aesthetics. This model was introduced in 1994, predating the Vintage 1996 chronograph, and represents an early expression of Girard-Perregaux's strategy to reinterpret classic forms for a contemporary audience. It stands as a foundational piece within the broader Vintage collection, showcasing the brand's commitment to its heritage during a period of significant horological revival.

The reference 8010 typically features a case crafted from stainless steel, measuring 32mm in width and 47mm in length, providing a distinctive wrist presence. It is powered by an automatic mechanical movement, often visible through a sapphire crystal case back, and is protected by a sapphire crystal on the dial side. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 46 hours, ensuring reliable timekeeping. Water resistance is generally rated to 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear.

This reference appeals to collectors interested in Girard-Perregaux's output from the 1990s, particularly those who appreciate watches with a strong vintage aesthetic and a rectangular form factor. It offers a more understated alternative to some of the brand's sportier or more complicated offerings from the same era. The Vintage 1994, reference 8010, represents a key period in the brand's modern history, highlighting its ability to blend traditional design with contemporary manufacturing.

Specifications

Caliber
GP3000
Case
Stainless Steel
Diameter
32mm x 47mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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gary_g
May 11, 2024
Interesting.

What issue was this in?

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this_hobby_of_hours
May 11, 2024
The link is

At the end of the post ā˜ŗļø

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amanico
May 11, 2024
Well, my friend, with GP there was a rule: Don't spend more than 0, 33 Cents of a dollar or you will loose money. It has always been like this. Less with U.N.

Nothing new, here. No, for me, the main problem is that both GP and UN are looking for a second and vital breathe. Nothing interesting for years, we are still waiting for innovation, originality, creativity... We are expecting the WOW moment for many years, now. Start with some great and appealing watches, then we'll see. First the watch, then the money. Best, Nicolas

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this_hobby_of_hours
May 11, 2024
ā˜ŗļø for me it’s

Watch AND inventory (prices) control in conjunction. Brand image and reputation is paramount in luxury. Not just the watch. šŸ¤ Today in Singapore I saw the 42 mm AM green ceramic brand new being sold by a dumper at USD 18,000 before bargaining. That’s waaaaaaay below MSRP Becoming a joke.

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amanico
May 11, 2024
But it has always been the case...

TH
this_hobby_of_hours
May 11, 2024
Yes. And what does that tell you?

Time to look at other areas of the business. They are not just in the watch making business. They are in the watch business with all the different areas of inventory control, marketing, distribution and pricing strategy. GP fails in these depts. they make get a 7/10 for their innovation of late. Maybe lower. But they get 2/10 for marketing and distribution from me. šŸ¤

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