Lange 1815 Chronograph vs. Grönefeld Remontoire
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Lange 1815 Chronograph vs. Grönefeld Remontoire

By sham1 · Aug 6, 2019 · 68 replies
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Sham1 presents a compelling collector's dilemma, weighing the A. Lange & Söhne 1815 Chronograph against the Grönefeld 1941 Remontoire. This post delves into the aesthetic and technical merits of each, inviting the community to consider the nuances of high-end independent watchmaking versus established maisons, particularly for those with smaller wrists.

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Sometimes we are faced with an interesting dilemma where either outcome is not such a bad thing.  Every time I consider a chronograph and no matter which ones I do try be it the MontBlanc Heritage, the discontinued Patek Philippe 5170G or P , I find it hard to ignore the A Lange & Sohne 1815 especially the white gold black dial version. At this point, it is worthwhile mentioning that I do not generally like watches with black dials but there is something about the black dial on the 1815 chronograph that  simply sweeps me off my feet. Perhaps it is the contrast with the white gold or perhaps it is the pulsometer scale but everything seems so legible. Let's not even talk about the legendary L951.5 movement which I dare anyone to say is unattractive.  This is for me is THE chronograph to own and it even represents excellent value for money compared to the 5170G.  I like the Patek for its slimness and its lighter weight but the Lange seems to triumph in most other areas.

The watch that always stops me from pulling the trigger on the 1815 chronograph is actually not even a chronograph but the revered Gronefeld 1941 Remontoire.  Yes, some of you will argue that I am not comparing like with like but I always ask myself this question before buying a watch - what else can I get for the same amount of money(a usual question for one with a budget and nope, a Porsche Cayman would lose hands down!  smile)  I love the Gronefeld and have my sights on a steel model, one of the twenty five to be made. The dial is relatively simple compared to the 1815 chronograph but there is nothing wrong with that.  Maybe it is the movement of the Gronefeld that makes me gasp every time I see one or perhaps, I just prefer the lightness of stainless steel compared to the weight of the Lange.  Both watches are eerily the same diameter at 39.5mm and the Gronefeld has the slimmer profile. The lugs are quite special in my opinion and although one can order a bespoke dial on one's Remontoire, I would be quite happy with the silver dial.  Maybe it is the fact that I have met Tim and Bart Gronefeld on a number of occasions and I actually feel that the privilege would be mine to own one of their watches one day.

Would you arrive at the same decision as I would?!  Thank you for reading!




It has taken two years for this watch to arrive in Malaysia and I managed to try it on tonight.




Too big or just right?




This is the rose gold model that I had managed to try on but stainless steel would be my preferred metal with the same dial




Difficult to resist






The most attractive manual chronograph movement?! I think so.




The Gronefeld - a sight to behold.


About the Gronefeld Ref. 1941Remontoire

The Grönefeld 1941 Remontoire is a distinguished offering from the independent Dutch watchmakers, Tim and Bart Grönefeld. It represents their commitment to traditional haute horlogerie combined with a distinctive contemporary aesthetic, positioning itself as a significant piece within their limited production portfolio.

The timepiece features a constant force mechanism, or remontoire d'égalité, integrated into its hand-wound movement, ensuring consistent power delivery to the escapement for enhanced accuracy. The movement, visible through a sapphire case back, is meticulously finished with polished bevels, circular graining, and Geneva stripes. The case is typically crafted from precious metals, housing a dial designed for legibility and understated elegance.

For collectors, the 1941 Remontoire is valued for its technical sophistication and the brothers' dedication to artisanal craftsmanship. Its limited production numbers and the inclusion of a complex constant force complication contribute to its desirability and long-term appeal within the independent watchmaking segment.

Specifications

Caliber
Grönefeld G-06
Case
Red gold, white gold, or platinum
Diameter
39.5 mm
Dial
Silver, rhodium-plated, or salmon
Water Resist.
30 meters
Crystal
Sapphire, front and back

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amanico
Aug 6, 2019
You can't go wrong with any of these two... [nt]

SH
sham1
Aug 6, 2019
So true Nico!

Thank you for your feedback. In gold medal position as usual

DE
dedestexhes
Aug 6, 2019
+1, don’t know which one I would choose... [nt]

SH
sham1
Aug 6, 2019
I was not even sure which forum to include this thread in! :-)

Both watches are heavyweights. I would love to be able to afford both but being retired has its downside Thank you for your feedback.

JL
jlc.thomsen
Aug 6, 2019
The 1815 movement is to die for and the best colour combo for this model. So is the Grönefeld in white metal hands down x 2 (?)-very difficult as price is the same’ish

However I think the Grönefeld suits your wrist much better. If I remember correctly the Grönefeld has a concave “belly” under it’s 39.5 mm- case is more elegant, lugs amazing. The 1815 is more sitting on your wrist not wrapping around it. And since you met the brothers too..... You’re the boss.

SH
sham1
Aug 6, 2019
Your reply is spot on!

I say 'spot on' because my first reaction when trying the Lange tonight was that it was sitting on my wrist. I did not feel I was wearing the watch or that the watch was being a part of my wrist. The Gronefeld however (possibly due to the case shape and the lugs) made my wrist its comfort zone and I felt more at one with the watch. At this price level, such a factor can be the deciding point between an acquisition or a non-acquisition. Thank you for your observation!!

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