MB&F vs. Urwerk: A Collector's Guide to Avant-Garde Independent Watchmaking
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MB&F vs. Urwerk: A Collector's Guide to Avant-Garde Independent Watchmaking

By damianp · Dec 5, 2020 · 27 replies
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In a quest for horological artistry that defies convention, damianp explores the captivating world of "steampunkish" watches, specifically eyeing creations from MB&F and Urwerk. This article delves into the community's insights, comparing these independent powerhouses and suggesting alternatives for collectors drawn to avant-garde design and technical innovation. damianp's journey highlights the challenges of evaluating such unique timepieces without direct access to retailers, making collective wisdom invaluable.

Dear all, one type of watch I've wanted to add to my collection for a long time, is a steampunkish watch like the Urwerk UR-105 or the MB&F Horological Machine No9 (added pictures taken from the manufacturer's websites). Those are just examples, though. I won't necessarily take exactly those watches.





As  none of these two manufacturers have a retailer close by or even in my country, I can't just easily go somewhere to get a feeling for them and their watches. So before traveling somewhere far next year to make my own opinion, I'd like to get some opinions of the community, preferably of owners or people, that have had a closer look at these brands. Would you prefer one of these brands over the other? If yes, why? Are they comparable in quality and lvl of craftsmanship? Do you have experience with their service department? Would you choose a different brand for such a type of watch (watch must still be in production/available)? Looking forward to some replies.

About the Urwerk Ref. UR-105

The Urwerk UR-105 reference represents a distinct evolution within the brand's "Knight" series, characterized by its unique "CT" (CollectoR) designation. This particular iteration offers a novel approach to displaying the intricate movement, allowing the wearer to selectively reveal or conceal the internal mechanics. This design choice distinguishes it from earlier UR-105 models, which either presented a fully open view or a more restricted display focused solely on the minute track, providing a balance between technical exhibition and visual discretion.

The UR-105 CT features a case crafted from titanium and PVD-coated steel, housing the UR 5.02 self-winding movement. The case measures 39.5 mm in width, 53 mm in length, and has a thickness of 17.3 mm. The movement provides a power reserve of 48 hours. A sapphire crystal protects the dial, offering a clear view of the wandering hours display. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters.

This reference appeals to collectors who appreciate Urwerk's distinctive approach to time display and mechanical innovation, particularly those who value the option to control the visual presentation of the movement. The UR-105 CT fits into the brand's lineage as a refinement of the wandering hours concept, offering a more interactive experience compared to its predecessors. Its design emphasizes both the technical artistry and the wearer's engagement with the timepiece.

Specifications

Caliber
UR 5.02
Case
Titanium and PVD-coated steel
Diameter
39.5 mm (width) x 53 mm (length)
Dial
Black
Water Resist.
30 m
Crystal
Sapphire

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patrickh
Dec 5, 2020

monochrome-watches.com

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Watchonthewrist
Dec 5, 2020

The Urwerk would the most wearable one . I have seen them both and tried them on the wrist . There both on top of the game and you can’t go wrong with any of them imho. I own a UR103 and have had great customer service experience. Don’t own a MB

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patrickh
Dec 5, 2020

I hope you will find your Dream "technical" watch.

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Obeezy
Dec 5, 2020

For me, I didn’t like all that wrist jockeying. I own neither brand, although my interest has been piqued by Urwerk recently so that may change. I’d go for the Urwerk. IMO it seems less gimmicky than the MB

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patrickh
Dec 5, 2020

should also be considered for pure technical watch, imho.

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Watchonthewrist
Dec 5, 2020

But dont get me wrong , i would love to own the HM9 , its so amazing and cool . Def a piece of wrist art

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