Montblanc Villeret Grand Chronograph vs. Pulsographe
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Montblanc Villeret Grand Chronograph vs. Pulsographe

By amanico · Jul 24, 2016 · 55 replies
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Amanico grapples with a compelling dilemma: choosing between two exceptional Montblanc Villeret chronographs, the 1858 Grand Chronograph Black Enamel and the Vintage Pulsographe. This post delves into the intricate details of dial aesthetics, movement preferences, case sizes, and monopusher configurations, offering a rich comparative analysis for collectors. Readers gain insight into the nuanced decision-making process when acquiring high-end, technically sophisticated timepieces.

White gold cases, 43, 5 mm for the Grand Chronographe, 39, 5 mm for the Vintage Pulsographe, Black Enamel or White Enamel, monopusher located in the crown for the Grand Chronographe, or at 2 o clock for the Vintage Pulsographe.... 

Snail or doctor? 




Cal 13.21 or 16.29? 13.21 for the vintage Pulsographe, 16.29 for the Grand Chronographe black enamel.



These two are highly tempting, almost an dilemma. First because they both offer an enamel dial, then because I am a big fan of snail dials, doctor's dial. 

So, when it comes to the dials, I really don't know. I never had a black enameled watch, so maybe the black would be THE solution, but the white is to die for. 

As for the movement, if I didn't own the 1858 Tachymeter, it would have been a tie game. Maybe a slight preference for the huge dimension of the Cal 16.29. 

Now that I own the 1858 Tachymeter, I would prefer adding the 13.21, which is another superb movement. 

The case? Same than for the movement... I already own a big case, so why not going for the smaller ( 39, 5 mm ) version. 

Monopusher? I am very happy to see that these two watches are mono pusher chronographs, as I am a big fan. Now, I prefer the solution of the mono pusher installed in the crown, I find it purer. 

But, once again, I already own one, so diversifying with a mono pusher at 2, why not... 

The blue hands of the Pulsographe have my preference, too. 

Dilemma, dilemma... 

I feel I am on the way to get a second Montlblanc Villeret Chronograph. 

Should I wait for a new one, with a hunter case back, snail or doctor's dial? 

Best,

Nicolas

About the Montblanc 1858 Collection Ref. 1858

The Rolex Bubble Back, reference 1858, represents an early example of Rolex's self-winding waterproof wristwatches. This reference is part of the broader Bubble Back family, characterized by its distinctive domed case back designed to accommodate the thicker automatic movement of the era. It showcases Rolex's foundational efforts in developing robust and reliable automatic timepieces for everyday wear, laying groundwork for future Oyster Perpetual models.

This particular reference features an 18k white gold case, measuring 38mm in diameter. It is fitted with a sapphire crystal, protecting a silver dial. The watch is powered by an automatic movement, specifically the Boucheron 1858 caliber, offering a power reserve of 42 hours. The fixed bezel and leather strap complete the watch's classic presentation.

For collectors, the reference 1858 holds interest as an early and relatively rare iteration within the Bubble Back series, especially in white gold. Its larger case size for the period also makes it appealing to modern tastes. The presence of a date complication adds to its functionality, distinguishing it from simpler time-only Bubble Back models and highlighting Rolex's early integration of practical features.

Specifications

Caliber
Boucheron 1858
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
38mm
Dial
Silver
Crystal
Sapphire

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KM
KMII
Jul 24, 2016

The smaller case and the white dial make it appeal more to me. So when is yours arriving?

EC
Echi
Jul 24, 2016

1) something about a black enamel snail dial that's quite alluring 2) 16.29.. The size just magnifies the beauty of the movement so I'm imagining it's more enjoyable to admire Doctor is nice. It's probably the more eye catching dial and white enamel is so easy to love. And the size, also a plus. But the snail, man, mysteriously sexy. Best, Echi

AM
amanico
Jul 24, 2016

You know my silly rule when it comes to high end watches... no two watches with the same movement. Thanks, Echi. Best, Nicolas

AM
amanico
Jul 24, 2016

AND not sure I have to stick to a silly rule.

CH
chuck19
Jul 24, 2016

I think your rationale makes sense and on the \'right\' track, ie already owned a 16.29, mono -pusher and looking for a white dial. In the past, i much prefer the 16.29 larger movement and finishing but now that I get to understand better these Villeret movement from MB, so I think the 13.21 is as good. The pusher at 2 o clock kind of confirms the white enamel dial as the best choice. What sweet dilemma Nico! let us know your decision . All the best my friend !

AM
amanico
Jul 24, 2016

In terms of decoration, good finishings, of course. I will let you know how I will solve this dilemma.

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