
Alex83 presents a compelling dilemma, asking the community to weigh in on a potential trade: his H. Moser Perpetual 1 for an A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 Lumen. This discussion delves into the nuanced considerations collectors face, balancing aesthetic appeal, market value, and the emotional connection to a timepiece. Alex83's post highlights the 'what's-next syndrome' common among enthusiasts and the complex factors influencing high-value watch decisions.
; but the Lumen is so special that I do not think it will be too much (when could that be with Lange??).
What do you personnaly think?
and in terms of "investment" do you see a clear difference between both evolutions?
Cheers,
Alejandro






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The DB25 represents De Bethune's entry in the 44.5mm manual-wind category, distinguished by its silver dial configuration within the DB25 series. This reference launched in 2006 and continues the brand's approach to contemporary haute horlogerie complications.
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Potential investment or not.....what's the point collecting if it's not for your own pleasure? Save up and buy a flat ,that's in the long run a better investment. Obviously some sort soft money consideration moves any purchase we make,but watch collecting should be the desire of owning something for yourself,despite the future value,but alas this is not contemplated in the watch world,and it seems to apply JUST in the watch world. Nobody cares how much money you lose with a new car,an expensive
welcome at PuristSPro! Regarding discount, price and investment I will sent you a PM and had to do edit it. Back to your question: I would do it, but that is maybe just me and me taste. Also I am not crazy about perpetual calendar´s in general. Cheers, Oliver
And my answer is YES! Why? Because I'm not a Perpetual Calendar guy. I find the Lange Lumen very breathtaking while the Moser is much more classic. You have to answer two questions: - do you think that there is no risk to be one day "bored" by the more daring and bold design of the Lumen? - what about the complication? There is no specific complication with the Lumen except the big date display while there is a PC with the Moser. Are you fascinated by this complication or not? but in my case, th
and there is no cleaner display of a perpetual calendar than the Moser. I am a big fan of perpetual calendars, and this complication is a must-have for me. But then there is Lange, and there is the Lange 1 Lumen. I do go back and forth in regard to the value of this watch relative to its high price. But I don't go back and forth in regard to the semi-transparent dial that Lange introduced first on the Zeitwerk Luminous and now on the L1 Lumen--I love this "complication." I would go for the Lange
And as much as I like the Moser, the Lumen would be my choice. Cheers Andeew
First up, welcome here Alejandro. Hopefully we will see a lot more of you around here in the future. With watches we are entitled to be schizophrenic. Looking into the future as a cold headed investor: the Lange ticks all the boxes. Looking into the watch box as a one-eyed Indie fan (leaving aside the personal definition of 'Indie'!): the Moser wins out. Good luck with that dilemma! Cheers, pplater.
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