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Christianch seeks community input on his next Patek Philippe acquisition, comparing the Golden Ellipse Ref. 3738/100G-012, Calatrava Ref. 5127G, and Nautilus Ref. 5712G-001. His post delves into the personal considerations of size, comfort, and aesthetic preference, particularly highlighting the Golden Ellipse's understated appeal despite its lower popularity in forums.
So I am enclosing some photos (sorry for the quality) of both the 3738/100G-012 and the Nautilus 5712G-001 that is among the few Nautilus available in store. I do like white gold but after another wrist test today apparently the 5712G-001 might be too big (and somehow heavy) on my wrist. I have other heavier watches in my collections and, from my experience, I end up wearing them very little this is why I am now much more inclined toward the Golden Ellipse 
The Patek Philippe Complications Reference 5712 is a notable offering within the brand's Complications collection, distinguished by its asymmetrical dial layout and a suite of practical indications. It presents a sophisticated blend of functionality and design, offering a moon phase, power reserve indicator, and an analog date display, all arranged to create a distinctive visual identity that sets it apart from more traditional Patek Philippe designs.
This particular reference features a stainless steel case measuring 40 mm in diameter, housing the self-winding caliber 240 PS IRM C LU. This movement is known for its slim profile, achieved through the integration of a micro-rotor, contributing to the watch's comfortable wearability. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal and offers a water resistance of 60 meters, with a power reserve of approximately 48 hours.
For collectors, the 5712 represents an accessible entry into Patek Philippe's complicated timepieces, offering a range of functions without the complexity of a perpetual calendar or chronograph. Its stainless steel construction and integrated bracelet provide a robust and versatile option, appealing to those seeking a daily wearable complicated watch. The reference has been in production since 2006, with the 5712/1A denoting the stainless steel bracelet variant.
Patek Nautilus Annual Calendar ref. 5726. Size 40.5 mm. Patek Travel Time ref. 5134P, diameter 37 mm. Patek Calatrava ref. 5196P. Size 37 mm. Patek Golden Ellipse 3738/100-G. Size 31.1 x 35.6 mm. Patek Nautilus ref. 3712. Size 40 mm. The wrist is always the same and the size of my wrist is about 8 inches, 200 mm. So what can you conclude from the pictures. In my opinion just one thing: all the watches fit well to my wrist even the sizes are quite different. To make it simple: take the watch you
thanks a lot for the gorgeous pictures :) I think my wrist is 8 cm or around that so perhaps much smaller ! All watches look great on you. Note the new ellipse has now a grey dial (WG version) I am sure that collectors are perhaps more attracted by the traditional blue one like yours (this is also probably why I could find this available in the boutique).
is nowadays offered with gray dial. Mine is the old version with blue dial but the size is the same. Don't pay any attention what collectors like and what collectors don't like. There are also fashionable watches that might be "in" today but very much "out" next year. Golden Ellipse is not very "in" at the moment but soon again smaller and very slim watches might be fashionable again. Keep in mind that 3738 is less than 6 mm thick. Did you notice that 3738 and 5712G are both sharing the same 240
at PuristSPro and to the world of Patek Philippe. You just bought your first PP a few weeks ago and you say you are very happy with it. Why are you looking for something new, something to add ...? What are you missing or looking for? You just got the PP itch and therefore you need one more? In any case, the PP 3738 is a very nice watch with a superb movement and especially in WG with grey dial and brown strap I like it a lot. Maybe not for every occassion and maybe not in winter, but in general
Hello Oliver and thanks for your kind welcome :) I bought the 5127G in early december as my own Christmas present. I intend to buy the PP 3738 as a birthday present to myself ! (and hopefully not planning any other major purchase after this). I am not really missing anything from the 5127G but in my collection I would like another Patek as I did enjoy the first one very much. I have some other watches in my collection like the H. Moser & Cie Monard Palladium and the Monard Date in white gold
Thanks Karl, Truly I did consider your point about getting the Nautilus because of the extra complication that makes it indeed a totally different watch and at a different price point. One think I dislike a bit is the need to switch strap in order to use it in the water. I am also gravitating toward the elipse as it is a bit more unique and I will probably wear it more. Obviously the Nautilus 5712G-001 is a more "important" piece and not that common either. I agree that collectors taste varies a
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