Patek Philippe 5905P vs. 5960A: Redundancy in a Collector's Patek Portfolio?
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Patek Philippe 5905P vs. 5960A: Redundancy in a Collector's Patek Portfolio?

By @Patek_Ambassador · Jan 17, 2020 · 24 replies
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In this insightful discussion, @Patek_Ambassador explores a common dilemma for seasoned collectors: the perceived redundancy of owning two Patek Philippe annual calendar chronographs, specifically the 5905P and the 5960A. His query delves into the nuances of material, dial color, and complication layout, seeking community input on whether these references offer distinct enough experiences to justify their place in a curated collection. This article synthesizes the community's perspectives on distinguishing similar Patek Philippe complications.

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I currently own a 5905P annual calendar chronograph and love it and will never sell. But I am not in range at my two Patek ADs to ever to be offered a Nautilus in my current lifetime and I have an insatiable desire for a stainless steel Patek sports watch on a bracelet. This brought me to discovering the white dial 5960A, a stainless steel white dial chronograph. Is it different enough from the black dial 5905P, which is also an annual calendar chronograph to not be redundant in my collection?

With the acquisition of a 5960A my Patek collection would consist of:

5130R World Time - rose gold white dial
5170J Manual Wind 30-minute chronograph - yellow gold white dial
5905P Annual Calendar 1-hour chronograph - platinum black dial
5960A Annual Calendar 12-hour chronograph - stainless white dial

Here are photos of the 5905P and 5960A for comparison:




















About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5130

The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5130, introduced in 2006, is a World Time watch that succeeded the popular reference 5110. This model maintained the distinctive World Time complication, allowing for simultaneous display of time in 24 different time zones. Its design evolved with a slightly larger case and updated dial aesthetics, distinguishing it from its predecessor while retaining the core functionality that defines Patek Philippe's travel timepieces. It was produced until 2017.

The watch features an 18k rose gold case measuring 39.5mm in diameter and 9.8mm in thickness, housing the self-winding Caliber 240 HU movement. This ultra-thin movement, visible through a sapphire crystal case back, provides a power reserve of 48 hours. The dial is silver or opaline with a guilloché center, protected by a sapphire crystal. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters.

Reference 5130 appeals to collectors seeking a sophisticated travel complication from Patek Philippe. Its larger case size compared to the 5110 offered a more contemporary presence on the wrist, while its classic World Time mechanism remained a hallmark of the brand's technical prowess. The model was available in various precious metals, with the rose gold variant offering a warm aesthetic.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.240 HU
Case
18k rose gold
Diameter
39.5mm
Dial
Silver / opaline guilloché
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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FA
FabR
Jan 17, 2020
They are different and both nice, though you should buy a 5960 only if you want a 5960, not as a substitute for, say, a 5711/5167...How about the black dial rather than the white one? ;-) [nt]

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@Patek_Ambassador
Jan 17, 2020
Because my 5905P is black, I would want white. There are good deals on the white dial. 15k less than the black. I also like it and the watch stands on its own and I wouldn't buy it as an alternative to a Nautilus, but thats only why I'm looking at it

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FA
FabR
Jan 17, 2020
Sounds reasonable, on both counts (that price delta is really big, but at least in part due to the fact the black dial has only been around for a year)👍 [nt]

PA
Park
Jan 17, 2020
Not redundant

I see them as very different references and wouldn't be concerned about redundancy because they'd likely occupy different niches in your wearing habits. The differences in metal, dials, colors, size, pushers, and sportiness easily distinguish them. Park

@P
@Patek_Ambassador
Jan 19, 2020
Good point. Thanks [nt]

JA
Jay (Eire)
Jan 17, 2020
I don’t see them being competitors or too similar.

And this 5960 is for certain very sporty, perhaps more so with the white dial than the black. Look forward to hearing about what you decide.

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