You can tell I'm new at this - there are only 3 watch manufacturers I really like (Panerai - Lange and Glashutte). When I viewed the watches in the previous post (on Blower's site)how could i miss that they were NOT Lange well I could and i did. I was pretty sure that Lange made only in gold and platinum so such excitement when I saw that they aslo crafted in steel. I Don't think they do. The same question really applies but i suspect the answer will be academic because if I can't afford a Glashutte then I suspect a Lange is going to be out of the question. Sorry about that members! George