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Some quick pictures of the Gronefeld brothers.
Since I met Bart in Vegas, during our IGOTT II some 4 years ago ( already??? ), I can call him a friend.
Each time we meet, it is a top quality time, with good laughs and interesting opinions to share.
Each year, I meet them at the SIHH, as they love watches and are very curious to see what is the " world Watch ".
I had a little surprise, this year, as I met them with... Philippe Dufour.
Hence the picture:
And two pictures of the Gronefled production, their Tourbillon:
In our incomparable style... As I took almost the same photo three years ago, and Bart and Tim remembered this moment very well.
These Indépendants are a moment of freshness in the Watch industry, for sure!
Best,
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2015-01-20 13:02:08
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Some quick pictures of the Gronefeld brothers.
Since I met Bart in Vegas, during our IGOTT II some 4 years ago ( already??? ), I can call him a friend. Each time we meet, it is a top quality time, with good laughs and interesting opinions to share. Each year, I meet them at the SIHH, as they love watc...
Meeting and discussing with independant watchmakers provide very special moments
I think I already asked you once why you didn't already acquire a watch from an Indy. I know you're very concerned about prices for value and going concern issues, but I guess you have there an envy (need?) that would be fulfilled if you took the plundge....
I am following the Independant Phenomenon in a close way.
Because I love this freshness, the concept, the man behind the Watch ( and God knows that there are some very cool guys, here ). Maybe one day... When my concerns will fly away. Best, Nicolas
Concern?
I honnestly do not follow you if you are referring to maintenance/ servicing concerns. 1/ as long as the watchmaker lives no problem 2/ No problem either after for all watches made in a traditional manner. Yes, I would be concerned with all small brands/ ...
I would be less categoric and optimistic than you, Z.
This could be a very interesting discussion, but it will be a long, very long one... To make it short, when you have to service a movement whose even the smallest parts are delicately finished, and that the watchmaker or his company has disappeared.... Wh...
So many questions unanswered, Nico
And that will never be answered. Carpe diem, seize the day, enjoy watches as they are, could be my (and your?) motto, where ever they come from... And think of servicing as it comes. I strongly believe there will always be very talented and careful watchm...
It depends on the price you have to pay for a watch.
From a certain price, I don't take the risk... If it is a 5000 Euros Watch, then why not. But paying 50, 60, 100 000 Euros for a Watch and being uncertain about being able to maintain it, well, no, thank you. Best, Nicolas
Wouldn't experienced watchmaker be able to revise an independent watch?
I am wondering, shouldn't a good and experienced watchmaker be able to even service an independent watch? Even be able to make certain movement parts himself? I recall one of my old watchmakers who was able to create parts himself. He is too old now, but ...
Normally, yes, but when it comes to a very technical movement...
With let's say silicon parts, is this still possible? I fear it is not. Or when the level of finishings is very high, I have the same doubts. Best, Nicolas
Nico
forget about repairing silicon parts in 50 years time. That was the point I was making. Good traditional watchmaking, irrespectively of how complicated it is, just as Breguet's watches today, can be serviced in the future by educated, skilful watchmakers....
That can't be the Gronefelds...
They must be celebrity doubles or impostors... you know its them as the Gronefelds always have a beer in their hands :) Cheers Andrew
As I always tell people...
smoking area is best place to meet great people ;) :) Thank you for pics Best D