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Yes and no?!
Given how much you spent on your 27, I can see why you are a bit upset by this. However, given how different the fundamentals of the watches are, I think you can take comfort in the fact that the similarities are only skin deep. I would take the 27 any day over the 35...I think the 27 is a prettier watch besides the amazing technical feats...and i am not a salesman!
I do agree with you also in that the tourbillion movement is no longer so special and exclusive as it once was. I would personally love to see RM do more complications besides tourbillion which seems to be the RM specialty complication (besides the split second of course!).
I don't suppose a Richard Mille annual calendar or Perpetual could be in the works?!
Not happy about new Nadal...
Owning a 27 as I do, I have to say that I'm not overly impressed with the introduction of their new offering at a fraction of the price. Whilst it will be heavier due to the glass / case material etc, the all important movement is only a gram heavier?!! H...
Well it gives mere mortals like me a chance to own such a powerful piece
Of course the 35 can never and will never be equal to the 27, but it represents something that is purer, including a central seconds hand that hacks thus even allowing precise time synchronisation to the second. You can't even do that with a tourbillon. (...
I can sort of see your point, but...
...Let's face it, Tom, the 35 will never be the watch your 27 is. It's not a tourbillon. It's hasn't got a clean-slate developed-from-the-ground-up totally unique movement. It'll most likely weigh at least twice as much. It won't have anywhere near the sa...
I can see your point, however, the Nadal watch is still
the Nadal watch. Still different materials, design, a tourbillon, and still the watch that is worn on Nadal's wrist. The RM035 is different watch, similar materials and objectives, but nowhere near the research that went into the 27. Think of it this way....
U guys sound like....
Salesmen! Come on, be honest. Do you think RM would have sold the 27 through if everyone knew of the 35 waiting in the wings? No, they wouldn't. However, being the horological snob I am, I would have still wanted the 27 but I am slightly perverse or spoil...
I reckon that RM would still sell all the 27 like hotcakes even with the 35 known
Because really i do find the design very seductive! And as Andrew has put it out to be, totally NOT the 35. No worries, you have your say and such, and hell if i had your kind of fundings, hoho my collection would probably contain more of those "up in the...
Yes and no?!
Given how much you spent on your 27, I can see why you are a bit upset by this. However, given how different the fundamentals of the watches are, I think you can take comfort in the fact that the similarities are only skin deep. I would take the 27 any da...
RM 011 Annual calendar?
I used to own an RM 011 but I don't consider it a "true" annual calendar since it does not have a day function...
true but the date changes for the relative months 30,31 accordingly
so it is in fact as true as any annual calendar
No, not salesman, and think that the RM027
will stand the test of time. The movement design of the RM027 far exceeds that of the RM035, as the RM027 is the Vaucher automatic reworked into the manual wind. Still a fair amount of R&D, but nothing like the 27. The 27 is one of the unique pieces t...
Your comparing apples to oranges....
other than the fact they are both black there are no similarities whatsoever. We all know in all watch makes a tourbillon costs significantly more than a non-tourbillon. This comparison is like saying you bought a RM002 and then getting annoyed when the R...
Silly me....
Yeah ur right. Don't worry that I have bought a piece that cost 7 times more than a subsequent offering of theirs because I can afford it. Gimme a break!
I suggest then that you sell the 27 and buy the 35 if your that annoyed..!!
I didn't mean to offend you but what do you want everybody to say..? I am confused by your attitude..? Would you have felt happier if we had all said how sorry we are that people might think you have a cheap 35 on your wrist..? I'm guessing by your attitu...
Ok I will....
Is it wrong that just because I am able to afford one that I should express a reservation with it's ownership? If not, why so chippy? I'm sorry you aren't able to have one in your stable but that's not really my affair so please don't chastise me for not ...
Excellent...we'll see it in the market place shortly then..!!
Yes I have read your previous 39 threads (!) hence the assumption your obsessed with what other people think instead of what you think. You could get the Bubba Watson 38 which at least is white so will still look unique which is obviously important to you...
Are you dyslexic?
If not, perhaps a bit slow but either way you should take the time to reread my posts again and maybe come back in........6 months maybe?! Then you will understand that they are the posts of someone that does not care what others think but only what is im...
Clarification for you.....
'ok I will' was referring to 'enlightening you' as you previously requested not to selling my favourate, though now slightly tainted, watch at present. Ah, 'bless you'.
Yawn..Yawn...
Nobody else in this thread has been rude or offensive except you...what does that tell you..? Look up the new Bubba Watson - it's the same as the Nadal but white - the RM012 is completely different...I guess you don't know what your talking about after al...
Wot? No ones been offensive?...
You think that by acting like a school teacher while making negative suggestions as to the makeup of peoples character, rounding it all off by some paragraph or sentence of candy coating isn't? Hahaha. Don't make me laugh 'Andy'. At least I've got the bal...
Gentlemen, please... this is supposed to be a 'dinner table' conversation..
and while I dont mind a heated discussion, we are all entitled to our own opinions. If Tom is unhappy at the RM035, then so be it, however, there are others who welcome the addition. I do not think that the RM035 detracts from the 027, Tom disagrees. Fair...
Understood but as far as being unhappy with the 35?
I'm anything but. All indications lead me to believe that it could well be the best watch they have yet to come out with due to their extraction of RMs D&A and utilizing it perfectly PERFECTLY in the new 35. I believe it will be their equivalent of Panera...
Not a million miles away from my own opinion, but I would
argue, considering where Richard started, that the RM027 is more the instrinsic RM watch. Richard Mille started as a high end, time only tourbillon watch (RM001), produced in limited numbers, that would be improved with new materials, new ideas. That gave...
Hmmmmm...
Whilst I agree with you that light weight tourbillon are what raised peoples heads enough to look at his new brand ( of which for me the 9 and 27 are the ultimate) however, turnover and commerciality has to be his main objective surely? After all, RM isn'...
Interesting views...
Having held & inspected the RM27 I really struggle to see what you are concerned about with this 35. The 27 is miles above and beyond the 35, It always was a huge amount of money for a watch, there is only 50 or however many they ended up making. Just rea...
I hear what ur saying but for me:
1) owning 2 lightweight black sportswatches would be a little much even for me! 2) I don't think that owning a 2 and a 10 are sufficiently comparable to the two watches I am referring to. One is automatic and pretty basic where as the other is complicated...
I agree with your point and.....
I totally understand what you are feeling. Though I can't say I'm not happy with the release of the RM35, I can safely say I feel your agony. The best situation is for you to be able to trade your RM27 to a RM009 and then buy a RM35. I can't afford a RM27...
Thanks! As far as trading up, or down,.....
I'll stick right now seeking comfort in the stats (not 'struts'!) of the 27 still being the lightest tourbillon made not to mention it's durability. I wear mine everyday while swimming, playing tennis ( and o play twice a week ) yet it still keeps perfect...