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A lot of things going on in the dial
I believe it is trimmed too much for effect. The classic PP design of the 60ies-80ies eventually comes to its limits, and "new" customers seem to want "novelties". The cream dial is too creamy, there are too many little gimmicks, why the red "1" (reminds me of the craze for red dial prints in the Rolex sports watch crowd) and so on.
Maybe the WG or Pt variants are a bit less flashy.
When you say.....
Pt or Wg will be less flashy, I am confused.
Isn't this version WG?
Isn't this version WG?
I think the red "1" is to clearly show the first of the month versus 311. Whether it's red or blue doesn't make a difference. This is WG so I presume you mean RG and Pl variants? [nt]
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Nice Watch
I really want to get this new timepiece, and have been waiting years for Patek to reintroduce a perpetual calendar in this classic format. It is a safe bet that in the years to follow there will be many variations on this theme. I have to admit that it would be great to see this watch with a far more conservative dial with dauphine hands. Something along the lines of a 3448 or a 3450? It's going to happen. In the meantime, I am on the waiting list for this one!
I tried on the watch and the most exciting feature is the instantaneous change function.
I always felt that the drag date / day / moon function was a bit lazy for Patek but adding the instaneous is a huge step forward. The complexity of managing power and timing is something other watchmakers have achieved and it is used in one other PP model. This puts it ahead of the 5327 (as my choice) but it still didn't have me reaching for my credit card. It's definately nice but I isn't "need" just yet! I will mull it over and see it again
Thank you Karl for these informations.
The model I had in hands was blocked at 10h09. Impossible to test it.
HAGWE,
Cheers,
Patrickh
HAGWE,
Cheers,
Patrickh
Thanks for the info and pictures Karl
I could see the 5320G this week but wasn't able to test the date change.
However, just as an addition to what you wrote, there are a few changing features and I think that this 5320 hasn't got a "jumping" instantaneous display but a "semi-instantaneous" one, it changes quite quickly (less than a minute) but is not totally instantaneous either.
I'll have to check that and will try to make a post about the different ones.
Best, Mark
Hi Mark...it's definately instant...hence the issue around the power reserve [nt]
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I love the look of this Patek.
Cream colored dials are my favorite and this look, very different for a Patek, is very nostalgic which I like.
Aloha.
Bob
Cream dial has a romantic and "past" spirit: agreed with you Bob [nt]
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I used to collect only cream dials …
And had no black dials. But now, I only have one cream dial left (gave it to my sons) and most are black. Your photo rekindled my desire for cream dials again.
Aloha,
Bon
Aloha,
Bon
From the first time I saw it it never convinced me.
I just do not think that it is as beautiful as described by many people. Firstly I do not like a cream dial with a clear case (maybe if the dial was a bit darker...). Furthermore I think that a PC expresses its own beauty at its best when is put together with a chronograph (This type of combination is my favourite: PP5204, Lange Datograph Perpetual...). Moreover I can not get the meaning of this watch: Patek said that this reference was vintage inspired and thought for a younger public however I do not think they managed in their purpose, I can not see nothing "young" in this timepiece. To sum up I would say that the success of this reference covered the beauty of a much nicer watch released this year: the 5372P-010. For me this is of the best watches from Patek in the last 3 years. Thanks for reading. Best
on some i agree.....on others i don't
For me.....I think the perpetual calendar is at best when it is purely a perpetual calendar. Combining it with a chronograph seems an odd thing to do other than to merely to create a very complicated watch. Don't get me wrong, I think the perpetual chrono can be a wonder. But in a purist sense, I think a perpetual calendar devoted to being purely a perpetual calendar is a wonder if done correctly. My favourite watch is a pure perpetual....maybe that is a bias for me.
I think the watch does borrow from the past. And i think that the purpose of this is to give it a more vintage feel with the view that this will appeal to younger buyers who simply cannot get to the actual vintage perpetuals as they are out of reach....
The 5372P is a beautiful watch, but its not in the same game as this one....its a totally different market in my view.
Having the cream dial with a white metal is not to my taste. Clearly not to yours either......but people have differing tastes, so it will appeal to many.
Like Nicolas, I cannot get past the portholes which, for my taste, do not help the cohesion and balance of the dial. Without the portholes, I would find this more appealing.
I think the watch does borrow from the past. And i think that the purpose of this is to give it a more vintage feel with the view that this will appeal to younger buyers who simply cannot get to the actual vintage perpetuals as they are out of reach....
The 5372P is a beautiful watch, but its not in the same game as this one....its a totally different market in my view.
Having the cream dial with a white metal is not to my taste. Clearly not to yours either......but people have differing tastes, so it will appeal to many.
Like Nicolas, I cannot get past the portholes which, for my taste, do not help the cohesion and balance of the dial. Without the portholes, I would find this more appealing.
I would be curious to see a photoshop on this watch WITHOUT the 2 holes on each side of the date and moonphase... I am disturbed by them. [nt]
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I agree.
What's the value to know if it's the 2nd or 3rd year of the leap year circle? Furthermore, if I do not know if it's day or night, something is badly wrong with my head.
Best, Kari
Best, Kari
That could be accomplished on the verso.... doesn't need to be on the dial [nt]
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This is easy to say but not easy to do
Modifying a movement in order to transfer the information from a side to another, especially when a movement is made from 2 modules is not something that can be done without heavy time and investment.
It would be easier to make a new movement from the beginning.
The construction and design of such modules is made so that the escapement gearings and parts are reliable and accurate. The QP module is also something quite tricky to integer in such a small room (more a question considering thinness rather than surface).
Hence, puting leap year indication that is dependent of the star shaped pieces position (thus that cannot be moved that easily) and the day and night indicator on the other side is not something that can be done.
It is like moving the small second of a 240 caliber at 6 as often suggested by people on the net but impossible to do.
I know all this and I would be happy if both holes
would be covered. Look at the oldest PP QP. Furthermore, the watch would get a more classic look.
Like said, the leap year indicator could be on movement side.
Best
Kari
Like said, the leap year indicator could be on movement side.
Best
Kari
nothing...absolutely nothing beats this for me....in any watch...ever.....total addiction [nt]
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and the moonphase enamel is something special....
yes, sometimes it is the simplicity that wins all.
Cannot beat your watch
When the 5320 comes out with white/silver dial and sticks, it will really catch on.