Cartier

as a true layman compared to you guys, i have to say that something as pedestrian as a large case ballon bleu (forgive me if these seems to mass appeal for some) positively glows compared to the jlcs i've seen.  amanico and others know that i absolutely love my ewc, but i think what i'm really getting at here is that there is just a different ethos to the cartiers, even these haute horlogerie models, when compared to the jlcs.  i see the master series, and they just don't excite me in the way that some of these high end cartiers do.  and that is purely emotional.  so, having said that, while the experts can argue over anglage etc., and there is, as there should be, some substance to these arguments (as a watch costing 10 times as much as the jlc should be noticeably superior), i have to say that the final analysis really must turn on the overall composition and aesthetics of the piece.  perhaps that underlies in some ways the debate here. 

chris

Thanks for the wise comment Chris. Buy what you like, regardless of the "expert's" comments on anglage and perlage. Sometimes we get too caught up in the details and forget the bigger picture - do you like the watch?

- SJX

i too think this one is overpriced since its a competing solution for an already overpriced complication and not that much prettier.

nevertheless, you can't really put a price on innovation but i would really love to see some nice and more economy complications invented

cheers,
Ed~

I've heard many people express that same view. But the new Fine Watchmaking range is selling much better than the CPCP. Are those who mourn the demise of the CPCP the same people who were buying them, and are now sadly deprived of access to the CPCP? Perhaps yes, in a small number of cases, but on the grander scale of things, no.

The same can be said of Zenith pre-Thierry Nataf. There was so much carping about how Zenith was being ruined by Nataf. Yet the Zenith before Nataf was simply not doing well. The watches were not flying off the shelves. Yes, Zenith's classic styling is being well received now, but I am certain that is in large part due to the fact that they are a total departure from Nataf-era styling. This is hypothetical but a reasonable supposition: if Zenith had gone from pre-Nataf pedestrian styling to the current classic look, it would definitely attract a lot less attention.

- SJX

Thanks for enlightening me.