From Rolex Submariner to Patek Philippe Ref. 5146: A Collector's Journey
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From Rolex Submariner to Patek Philippe Ref. 5146: A Collector's Journey

By WH_ · Mar 8, 2020 · 54 replies
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WH_'s introduction to the WatchProSite community offers a candid look into a burgeoning watch collection, charting a path from early enthusiast pieces to a significant Patek Philippe acquisition. His journey, marked by thoughtful choices and a clear appreciation for horological craftsmanship, provides a relatable entry point for new collectors. The post also sparks a lively discussion on the perception of iconic watches like the Rolex Submariner and the merits of the Patek Philippe Ref. 5146.

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Good morning everyone, 

I'm new to the forum, and following FabR's advice, I thought it would be nice to introduce myself.

I have been frequenting these forums as a reader and have learnt a great deal from the mature and knowledgeable discussions over here. I'm relatively young (early thirties), so I'm not yet in a position where I have a nice collection like many of you, nonetheless, I'm an enthusiast, so I will share my story.

It all started with a Flik flak swatch when I was 6 years old, followed by a couple of G shocks, and then once I graduated University my dad bought me a TAG Heuer Caliber 16. I chose that one because I liked the idea of having a chronograph on a sporty/chunky looking watch. My brother, however, did a better choice getting an Omega speed master!

After a few years in my career I continued enjoying versatile stainless steel chronographs, so I got the Omega speed master Professional. then a couple of years after I upgraded the Rolex Submariner date. I know the Submariner is a contraversial watch due to the connotations behind it (new money, herd mentality, doesn't understand watches, etc). But for me, I believe it is a timeless model, a leader in its category, looks great, and holds incredible value. It probably is the most collected watch in the world (?). It is my daily wearer, because it is versatile, and also it is not intimidating around the office. Which brings me to my last purchase.

As you realise I mostly had sports stainless steel watches, and I always had an itch for a proper dress watch, and that it had to be a Patek. I'm lucky to have friends working high in management in the watches industry and accordingly have done tours at JLC and VC. Those tours made me fall in love even more with watch making, and enabled me to learn a lot. but what they also did, is show me the level of competitiveness they have amongst each other, and how they always compare to Patek Philippe - which told me that there's only one reference in this industry and that's Patek Philippe.

Following lots of research and visits to Patek here in Geneva, I decided to buy the 5146, because they nailed the balance between classic and modern, with he arabic numerals, dial size, case shape and lumen. I think it is beautiful, and effectively communicates the Patek equity and ethos with its design. Also, who would say no to that moon phase! I haven't looked back since, but I must admit, I'm looking forward as well *shy face*

As said earlier, I don't have a wide or impressive collection, but I aspire to continue learning and grow it as the years pass. my grail at the moment is 5170.

Questions:
1) What is your perspective on the Rolex Submariner - is it fair to say that if I wear one daily, I'm emitting a crude image?
2) What are your thoughts on the 5146 AC? I ask because my impression is that people on this forum prefer the 5205 as an AC.
3) What was your journey to your first Patek?

Cheers all and thank you for reading.

WH








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About the Patek Philippe Patek Philippe 5146/1J-001 Ref. 5146

The Patek Philippe Annual Calendar Moon Phases reference 5146, introduced in 2005, represents a significant offering in the brand's annual calendar complication lineage. This reference succeeded the popular 5035 and 5036 models, refining the aesthetic and technical presentation of the annual calendar with moon phases. It is characterized by its balanced dial layout, integrating day, date, month, moon phase, and power reserve indications in a legible and harmonious arrangement. The 5146 was produced in various precious metals, establishing itself as a core model within Patek Philippe's complicated watch collection for many years.

This particular iteration of the 5146 is presented in an 18k yellow gold case, measuring 39mm in diameter. It houses the self-winding Patek Philippe Caliber 324 S IRM QA LU, a movement known for its reliability and precision, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The movement provides a power reserve of approximately 45 hours. A domed sapphire crystal protects the dial, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters, suitable for everyday wear but not for swimming or diving.

The reference 5146 appeals to collectors seeking a sophisticated daily wearable complication from Patek Philippe. Its annual calendar mechanism requires adjustment only once a year, at the end of February, offering practical convenience. The model was available with several dial variations and case materials throughout its production run, which concluded around 2020. The yellow gold variant with a silvery opaline dial offers a classic and understated presentation, aligning with traditional Patek Philippe aesthetics.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.324 S IRM QA LU
Case
18k Yellow Gold
Diameter
39mm
Dial
Silvery opaline
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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mahesh
Mar 8, 2020

you've got a wonderful start....i think Rolex sub is in its own right the best beater - don't worry too much of what world thinks about it...go with your heart ! 5170 is a very elegant timepiece...personally i've a weakness for breguet numerals... PP have been always a dilemma for me - i liked 5196P & couple of others, but each time i went on with an independant offer, may be bcos of the personal interactions with the watch maker is an influence. enjoy your journey ! Best, mahesh.,

LI
LiftAngle51
Mar 8, 2020

How i think about a Rolex submariner? I like the hulk. Patek certainly made great watches, but i like VC also and VC is great. Older too. A huge watch collection is not my goal, but a collection where i am proud of. On my work i wear my Tissot. Affordable and it contains all the DNA of Swiss quality.

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Cpt Scarlet
Mar 8, 2020

And thank you for telling us about your personal journey with various watches. The Rolex Submariner is a “popular” watch, but that’s because it’s so good it’s become a legend and probably the only watch anyone really needs. The Patek that you have chosen looks great on your wrist and you’re clearly enjoying it, that should be the point of our love for watches. I’m sure that this will be a long and enjoyable journey of many watches. Best wishes for the future Cpt Scarlet

WH
WH_
Mar 8, 2020

And thanks for your note on the Rolex Sub. I agree, It is what it is and does what I need.

WH
WH_
Mar 8, 2020

both on the size of the collection, and on the daily wearer. I am quite conscious about not alienating people in the office, my reports but also management. I still need those bonuses

LI
LiftAngle51
Mar 8, 2020

And you wil not be in stealth mode. Personally i like the modern Ulysse Nardin watches. When i see a lot of watches in a window, i see a flower field. Breitlings next to each other and that wing logo really beautiful.

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