New Release
Mark in Paris initiates a lively discussion anticipating Patek Philippe's 2016 novelties ahead of the Basel fair. His post encourages the community to speculate on potential new references, particularly focusing on perpetual calendars and chronographs, and the evolving design language of the esteemed manufacture.
Dear forumners,
I imagine
that you are aware that the Basel fair will open its doors for the 2016
Millesime next week. Hence, it is time to make your wish (and your bet!)
We are familiar with pre-exhibition rumors related to this kind of events, we don't know yet if they are reliable or not but what I'm curious to know is what would be the very few (let's say 3) watches that you would really like or expect to see.
It can be an existing reference in another color or a completely new one (in replacement of the previous generation or a true "First"). It is always difficult to choose between stepping into the historical generations' footsteps and making something completely new, in order to prepare the future and bring diversity or evolutions to a DNA.
We all have different approach on this matter but I think they all answer to our instincts and true desires.
We've made a post about the Nautilus 40th anniversary (here: www.watchprosite.com ) mentioning that we don't know yet if it will be celebrated during the Basel fair or later in the year. Hence, let's stick to the other families.
So, what's
on the menu...
Perpetual Calendar-only model
To start with, both 5130 and 5140 were introduced in 2006, thus they are already 10 years old. I think it is a nice life time, even if we've seen much shorter, as well as much longer presence in the catalogue in the past for Patek references. Furthermore, the 5130 and 5140's cases' design was a cousin of the previous Calatrava range (5107 and 5127).
This being
said, I think I'm really looking forward to discovering a new Perpetual
Calendar-only reference this year, especially to discover a new case
work as Patek makes, from my taste perspective, the most beautiful ones among
traditional brands: a tremendous refinement in a charming and
classical dress. As I said in my 5227R review (here: www.watchprosite.com
), its case is a piece of art with
elegant curves and little discreet grooves which bring the reference into what
beautiful classical style can be interpreted to be today. This case could be
used as a base.
The next 5170R or 5170P
Of course, we can see several references where a metal color is still missing. I have selected only 2 versions, in the same family: the 5170R and P.
With a new dial with Arabic (non-Breguet) numerals at 12 and 6 only and applied markers (baton or nail shaped) for the other hours. And dauphine or leaf hands
The point is not to make copies, what patek never did but to search for inspiration in the DNA and style patterns of previous masterpieces.
Thus, here are
some examples inspiration can be taken from (pictures from Antiquorum database). Those older references must remain unique and this is what Patek always respected with no tributes in its catalogue. However, what is gorgeous and timeless remains so.
The classical version...
Or the
wonderful sector dial (like on the gold and steel versions
here below). I don't think Patek will release a Steel version for many reasons
but it will remain evn more stunning in Pt and R from my
PoV.
These are my 2 choices for this year.
I'll be curious to read about yours!
Cheers, Mark
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The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5130, introduced in 2006, is a World Time watch that succeeded the popular reference 5110. This model maintained the distinctive World Time complication, allowing for simultaneous display of time in 24 different time zones. Its design evolved with a slightly larger case and updated dial aesthetics, distinguishing it from its predecessor while retaining the core functionality that defines Patek Philippe's travel timepieces. It was produced until 2017.
The watch features an 18k rose gold case measuring 39.5mm in diameter and 9.8mm in thickness, housing the self-winding Caliber 240 HU movement. This ultra-thin movement, visible through a sapphire crystal case back, provides a power reserve of 48 hours. The dial is silver or opaline with a guilloché center, protected by a sapphire crystal. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters.
Reference 5130 appeals to collectors seeking a sophisticated travel complication from Patek Philippe. Its larger case size compared to the 5110 offered a more contemporary presence on the wrist, while its classic World Time mechanism remained a hallmark of the brand's technical prowess. The model was available in various precious metals, with the rose gold variant offering a warm aesthetic.
Furthermore, a 5170P with black (or white) enamel dial would be great. White would make a nice pair with 5370P. I like your idea about new perpetual using 5127 type of case. But then a new calibre would also be needed. Then World Time... that's such a classic complication that there's no modern Patek collection without one. My guess is that they have developed the movement in such a way that the time zone can be adjusted either plus or minus one hours. Finally, I believe there will be a Big Surp
Can\'t wait to see what next week brings. I would really like to see a pilot chronograph, but it may be too soon after the release of the 5524 last year. I think we may see a replacement for the5130 as well. I wouldn\'t be surprised to see a new watch using the movement from the 5235.
And an instant sell out. I will be very interested if it happens.
Anyhow, I have already ordered it. Best, Kari
New 5130 and 5140: Very likely the 5130, 5140 will get redesigned: case will change as they are fading the 5127 case style as you mentioned. The dial of the 5140 models suffers from the “squeezed 5 and 27 ” date number syndrome and I think they know it and will correct this problem in the new iteration. New 5130 and 5140 may have new movements based on the 260 caliber. The city dial of the current 5130 is also wrong and I believe that a redesign will bring a solution to that one too. Will we see
Look to the future Something out of left field Think 5235, 5524( aviator ) But I would love a Plat chono black dial Julian
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