Patek Philippe 240 PS CI J LU Big Date Discussion
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Patek Philippe 240 PS CI J LU Big Date Discussion

By chmandaue · Oct 18, 2024 · 22 replies
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Chmandaue's incisive post challenges Patek Philippe's design choices in their new calendar movement, specifically highlighting the 240 PS CI J LU with its big date complication. He scrutinizes the power reserve and the multi-pusher calendar setting, questioning whether these align with modern user expectations and Patek's own historical innovations. This discussion is crucial for collectors to understand the balance between tradition and contemporary horological advancements within the brand's offerings.

Power reserve under 2 days.

Then to reset the calendar, need to use 3 separate pushers.

The new movementโ€™s grande basculante seems like a missed opportunity to include a master pusher that advances all three (day, date, moonphase) at the same time, for the convenience of the user.



Mentioned in revolutionwatch.com /

As the article quotes Thierry Stern saying, calendars are intimidating to many. So burden them with a very complex (but not even perpetual) calendar setting procedure?



Well there is hope. Stern said this is just the beginning of the collection. One can still hope for the future perpetual calendar model to include that Thing which Patek helped to develop for wristwatch use, more than 50 years ago.

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5822

The Patek Philippe reference 5822P-001, known informally as the "Cubitus," offers a distinct presence within the brand's contemporary sports watch offerings. It presents an alternative aesthetic to more traditional Patek Philippe sports models, characterized by its robust design and substantial wrist presence. This reference caters to collectors seeking a bolder expression of Patek Philippe's design language, moving beyond the established lines while maintaining the brand's commitment to high horology.

This specific reference is crafted from platinum, a material often reserved for Patek Philippe's most significant timepieces. The case houses a self-winding mechanical movement, visible through a sapphire crystal case back. The front crystal is also sapphire, ensuring durability and clarity. The watch features a blue dial, a color frequently associated with platinum Patek Philippe watches, enhancing its collector appeal.

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Specifications

Caliber
CH 28-520 C
Case
Platinum
Diameter
44 mm
Dial
Blue
Water Resist.
30 m
Crystal
Sapphire

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CH
Chewbacca
Oct 18, 2024

The whole line is growing on me in general.

FM
fmc000
Oct 18, 2024

Isn't anachronistic in 2024 a calendar watch that needs pushers to correct? Couldn't do that with the crown as many do now (even with perpetual calendars, actually)? IWC does that since the eighties, that's forty years... And I agree that less that two days of PR doesn't make sense either in 2024.

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COUNT DE MONET
Oct 18, 2024

Having seen some real live pictures now, I must say the blue day date could have been a great watch, only if it would have been far smaller. The complications are good, the instant changes are top, pushers are still o.k. as the movement is too complex. 45 mm is huge, that is a shame!

CH
chmandaue
Oct 18, 2024

According to Collectability , the cal. 240 base movement dates from 1977. The power reserve looks even worse when we consider that the beat rate is just 21,600 vph. To compare, the 90s-developed slim GP cal. 3100 delivers a comparable power reserve at 28,800 vph. Why there hasn't been a clean-sheet replacement in almost 50 years to one of the technical foundations of the company's mechanical watches? As for the dial side module, yes, pushers are anachronistic too. There should have at least been

CH
chmandaue
Oct 18, 2024

I measured my large-sized Apple Watch - 38 mm wide. The Cubitus is as wide as an Apple Watch Ultra (44 mm wide)

GO
golden hands
Oct 18, 2024

why is the measurement given diagonally ?

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