Patek Philippe 3970P Silver Dial Acquisition
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Patek Philippe 3970P Silver Dial Acquisition

By no_frills · Apr 18, 2013 · 38 replies
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No_frills shares his latest acquisition, a Patek Philippe Ref. 3970P with a silver dial, complementing his existing 3970J. This post offers a personal reflection on collecting, the aesthetic differences between platinum and yellow gold versions of the same reference, and the enduring appeal of the discontinued CH27-70Q movement. His detailed photographs and commentary provide a valuable comparison for collectors considering these highly sought-after perpetual calendar chronographs.

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It wasn't so long ago that I posted this thread about acquiring my 3970J:

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Still, I tend to buy in twos just because I have this fantasy that I'll be leaving behind my watches as heirlooms to my two daughters. What should follow a 3970J? Well, I decided that it should, very fittingly, be a 3970 in platinum.

 

It came very nicely sealed, freshly serviced by Patek USA.

It came very nicely sealed, freshly serviced by Patek USA.


Very quickly unsealed, I made sure it was nestled quite comfortably and perfectly in its box.

Very quickly unsealed, I made sure it was nestled quite comfortably and perfectly in its box.


What about a close-up of that incredibly legible, perfectly proportioned silver dial? The 3970P usually came with a black dial with diamond markers; its much more rare to find a 3970P born with a silver dial, and I was fortunate to find one with complete (open) papers.

What about a close-up of that incredibly legible, perfectly proportioned silver dial? The 3970P usually came with a black dial with diamond markers; its much more rare to find a 3970P born with a silver dial, and I was fortunate to find one with complete (open) papers.


What about a shot from another angle? Now the silver looks a bit closer to classic Patek opaline white, not detracting at all from its legibility and understated appeal. The platinum would fly under the radar, while the yellow gold exudes warmth and a vintage look.

What about a shot from another angle? Now the silver looks a bit closer to classic Patek opaline white, not detracting at all from its legibility and understated appeal. The platinum would fly under the radar, while the yellow gold exudes warmth and a vintage look.


What does the awesome display back reveal? The lovely (and perhaps now legendary, since its been discontinued) CH27-70Q manual wind movement. Check out the intricate finishing - you can look at the details all day and not tire of it.

What does the awesome display back reveal? The lovely (and perhaps now legendary, since its been discontinued) CH27-70Q manual wind movement. Check out the intricate finishing - you can look at the details all day and not tire of it.


Of course, the obligatory wrist shot!

Of course, the obligatory wrist shot!

Thanks for everyone who weighed in on what proved to be yet another relatively short search for the next piece in my small collection. I think my daughters are all set to inherit some decent watches when they are ready!

In the meantime, I will enjoy these beauties for all they are worth: each of my timepieces gets worn at least once a week.

About the Patek Philippe Grand Complications Ref. 3970

The Patek Philippe reference 3970 is a perpetual calendar chronograph, a complication central to the brand's heritage. It succeeded the highly regarded reference 2499 and served as a bridge to the later reference 5970. The 3970 was produced over an extended period, allowing for several series and subtle variations in its design, making it a significant model for collectors interested in the evolution of Patek Philippe's complicated wristwatches.

This reference features a 36mm case, commonly found in 18k white gold, yellow gold, rose gold, and platinum. It is powered by the manual-wind caliber CH 27-70 Q, based on a Lemania รฉbauche, which offers a power reserve of 60 hours. The watch is fitted with a sapphire crystal, protecting a dial that typically includes subdials for the chronograph, perpetual calendar displays, and moon phases.

The 3970 appeals to collectors seeking a classic Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph with a traditional aesthetic and a historically important movement. Its long production run from 1986 to 2004 means that examples from different series, such as the first, second, and third, exhibit minor differences in dial layout and case details, providing distinct collecting opportunities within the reference.

Specifications

Caliber
CH 27-70 Q
Case
18k white gold
Diameter
36mm
Dial
Silver
Water Resist.
25m
Crystal
Sapphire

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AM
amanico
Apr 18, 2013

The 3970J is in danger! Bravo. Nicolas

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no_frills
Apr 18, 2013

And by "cold" I mean it in a good way: the platinum is way cool/smooth, and flies under the radar. However, the 3970J's yellow gold exudes warmth, and it has a "vintage" feel to it that you just can't get from something as "cool" and "edgy" as the 3970P. So, I am thinking that both have a place in the collection! Now, the issue is: which daughter will get the J and which one will get the P... or will they both want the J or the P!

MY
Myopiccoog
Apr 18, 2013

Well done my friend. Stunning in person!

AM
amanico
Apr 18, 2013

Send me the P! :) Best, Nicolas

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no_frills
Apr 18, 2013

... c/o my wife last night, less than one hour after I got home. Yep, that's the 3970P on her wrist.

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no_frills
Apr 18, 2013

Less than one hour home, the 3970P quickly migrated to my wifes wrist.

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