Patek Philippe 5070 & 5110: White Gold vs. Platinum
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Patek Philippe 5070 & 5110: White Gold vs. Platinum

By amanico · May 12, 2016 · 53 replies
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Amanico presents a compelling comparison between white gold and platinum versions of two Patek Philippe icons: the Chronograph Ref. 5070 and the World Time Ref. 5110. This article delves into the aesthetic and material distinctions that define these references, exploring how dial variations and metal choices influence a collector's perception and desirability. Amanico, alongside fellow collector Joe, offers a unique perspective by comparing their respective white gold and platinum pairings.


The eternal question: Which is the most desirable, white gold or platinum?

This question may sound silly, as the answer is evident, - material wise . 

Platinum has more " noblesse ", is tougher to work, and may be considered as more rewarding. 


BUT... 

Aesthetically, brands generally give different dials to white gold and platinum versions of a same reference. Which is logical, since they understand that their products have to be differentiated for / by their clients. 

And when you judge the outcome, at the end, the answer is not that evident. 

This is something we often discussed, Joe and me, about the world time reference 5110 and the Chronograph reference 5070.

At the end, we wanted to compare both of them. Funnily, Joe owns the 5070P and the 5110G, while I own the 5070G and the 5110P. 

The world time has been an immediate " coup de coeur ", since its release in 2000. The white gold version was my first target, since I thought I would never be able to put my hands on the platinum, and I must say that the white case / white dial combination worked very well for me.





For the Chronograph, it has been quite the same: I first saw the white gold version, which is normal since it was released in 2004 while the platinum only came in 2009. 


I liked the white gold version a lot, but I thought I missed the train, when in 2009 I was pretty sure I could lock the platinum as I put my name on the list on the very first day of its release. 



After one year and a half filled with an impressive silence on my order, I knew that if I wanted to get a 5070, it would / should be the G, not the P. 

Is that a second choice? Certainly not! I am very pleased with the more subtle look of the G, understated, almost. It is class, it is cool, it is top. 

And I found my blue chronograph, the Montblanc Minerva Villeret 1858 Tachymeter, which gives me a lot of pleasure and satisfaction. 

The Patek 5070 P versus the Montlbanc Villeret 1858 Tachymeter:




That being written, when you put the to versions of the world time and chronograph side by side, some bad ideas come to your mind.

Indeed, the dial is the soul of the watch. Change the color, and you have a different character. Then, getting both of them is very tempting. 

For those who own the 5070P, the G is quite a formality. While the owners of the 5070G will have some financial trouble o get the P. So, the G and P duo is quite unrealistic, if you started with the G. 


But for those who own the 5110, it doesn't really matter if you started with the P or the G. Both are still feasible. 



Another good reason to favor the 5110 duo over the 5070 is that the Patek world time kills the contenders. It is an icon, while some of the competitors are good watches, but without the status of an icon.  

The Chronograph is in the same league than the world time competitors: A nice watch for sure, a cool one, yes, but there are some strong alternatives. More than for the world time, in my opinion. 

So, what is your opinion, here? 

White gold, platinum, or both? 

Best,

Nicolas




This message has been edited by amanico on 2016-05-12 23:43:11

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5130

The Patek Philippe Complications reference 5130, introduced in 2006, is a World Time watch that succeeded the popular reference 5110. This model maintained the distinctive World Time complication, allowing for simultaneous display of time in 24 different time zones. Its design evolved with a slightly larger case and updated dial aesthetics, distinguishing it from its predecessor while retaining the core functionality that defines Patek Philippe's travel timepieces. It was produced until 2017.

The watch features an 18k rose gold case measuring 39.5mm in diameter and 9.8mm in thickness, housing the self-winding Caliber 240 HU movement. This ultra-thin movement, visible through a sapphire crystal case back, provides a power reserve of 48 hours. The dial is silver or opaline with a guilloché center, protected by a sapphire crystal. Water resistance is rated at 30 meters.

Reference 5130 appeals to collectors seeking a sophisticated travel complication from Patek Philippe. Its larger case size compared to the 5110 offered a more contemporary presence on the wrist, while its classic World Time mechanism remained a hallmark of the brand's technical prowess. The model was available in various precious metals, with the rose gold variant offering a warm aesthetic.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.240 HU
Case
18k rose gold
Diameter
39.5mm
Dial
Silver / opaline guilloché
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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CR
crown comfort
May 13, 2016

Wow, the 5070 next to the Montblanc shows how big the MB really it!

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Baron - Mr Red
May 13, 2016

My honest opinions is one that I think you know. In 5070s, I think the P has something special. It has that factor X. The 5070G, though, is also a watch that I have owned! And its is a spectacular watch. I know you think that there are very good competitors on manual chronos, but for me, the 5070 stands in limited company for many reasons. For a start, it was some time before PP decided to relaunch a manual chrono. Second, the proportions of the 5070 were, at the time of launch, very atypical fo

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Baron - Mr Red
May 13, 2016

.......my issue is specifically on the 5110. The G has a greater clarity to it...the dial is more pure. Legibility is better. The white dial has a wonderful contrast. Overall the G is a more formal elegant watch. the 5110P is just simply much cooler.

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dr.kol
May 13, 2016

In my case the number of watches went out from control at one stage. Then I started to reduce with a final result that the number started to grow back to the original. The only development was that the watches were even more expensive. I started again to downscale by getting rid of coloured gold. Then there was left steel, titanium WG and platinum. Somehow I like the feel of platinum a lot and I have decided that whenever there is or will be a platinum version available, I will go for that subje

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COUNT DE MONET
May 13, 2016

Before Paris I was not sure whether the 5070 is worth all the hype an praise it has earned. However having seen the P and the G and having handled them I am totally convinced by both versions. The P has got the edge as it is big, big theatre and spectacular and a watch you can't give back easily once you had it in your hands. My only reservation is that it wears a little bit big on the wrist and here the G gains over the P again as it will fly easier under the radar, will be more discrete. With

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Baron - Mr Red
May 13, 2016

....these are watches that need to be worn to appreciate. A similar revelation occurred for me with 5110P..... it has a coolness that surprised me. I tend to like watches that are not overtly dressy. The 5110G is quite dressy for me. I thought the 5110P would be even more so.... i was wrong.

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