Patek Philippe 5070 Family Comparison
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Patek Philippe 5070 Family Comparison

By amanico · Jun 11, 2012 · 69 replies
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Amanico presents a comprehensive comparison of the entire Patek Philippe Ref. 5070 family, showcasing the distinct characteristics of the J (yellow gold), R (rose gold), G (white gold), and P (platinum) models. This article delves into the aesthetic nuances and collector appeal of each reference, offering valuable insights for enthusiasts of this iconic chronograph.

As a starter, I posted this family picture. From left to right: J, R, G, P.



Let's now focus on each of them.

As a white metal fan, I naturally hesitated between two of these Fabulous Four, the White Gold or the Platinum:



I ended with the G, and I am very happy with it, even if I absolutely love blue dials and platinum cases, but the asked premium was prohibitive for me.

1/ The G is far from being a bad choice.

Among the four, it is certainly the most discrete, understated, and somehow versatile, as you can wear it in any circumstances, formal or dressy.

Cold but refined.

The silver dial will allow you to marry it with every color of your shirts or suits, without any problem, which is not the case with the P and its blue dial, which may lead to some " fautes de gout ".









The monochromatic view on the case back is another pleasant detail:



Well, you know my feeling about it, I already wrote several times on that reference.

2/ The P adds a sporty dimension to the 5070:

If you compare the P and the G, putting them side by side, the P is immediately more " eye catcher ".

The contrast between the white case and the blue dial is very appealing, a combination which works very well, naturally.

I would say that the P is more dynamic than the G, younger, maybe, less discrete certainly, with a major asset on the white gold case, or maybe two, if I think about it, again.

First, the case is not rodhied, like on the white gold, which is a con for this last reference.

Then, the platinum case has more density, which you feel once on the wrist, and provides a pleasant feeling.

Here is the beast, in all its beauty:









While the case back shares the same discrete tonality with its G " brother ":



3/ The R adds warmth to the silver dial.

Rose Gold for the case, but also for the applied indexes and the hands.

Here is an interesting picture, which allows to better-than in words- undersntad the different character of the R, compared to the G:



Warm, but not inelegant. These light red accents give a lot of class to the watch.

I would even say that it is certainly the dressiest of all, the most sophisticated.

Funnily, the red gold version was the one which let me really cold, but seeing it in the flesh drove me to change my opinion on it.

Though, I prefer the white gold version, but it is my personal taste.

Some pictures are worth than a thousand words, once again:









And now, the contrasted outcome, between the movement and the case:



Not bad at all, don't you think?

4/ The J is THE revelation.

Indeed, the Yellow Gold is the one which is closer to the roots of the reference which inspired Patek Philippe for the 5070, while the R, G and P can be seen as modern interpretations, iterations.

The Reference 2512 ( picture to be credited to Christies ) :



The 5070 J, now:





A bit less warm than the rose gold, it has a strong presence, due to the association of the yellow gold case and the black dial, with the yellow gold applied indees and hands.

The J, side by side with the R:



The yellow gold has a warm aspect, quite close to the rose gold, as you can see.

If I described the J as a revelation, it is because I had to wait to see all of them together to get its real appeal, even for a no colored guy like me.

Here, Patek plays the Vintage card, clearly: This 5070 looks like a chronograph which was made in the Fifties.

Less subtle or elegant, but not less appealing. Another eye catcher, in my opinion.





CONCLUSION:

Slowly but surely, an idea comes into the mind...

Which one is the most interesting, among these 4?

The answer is without any doubt, each of them, for the reasons I mentionned, and everyone may easily find HIS 5070.

That is the easy answer, but there is a more difficult approach which can be summed in 3 words: All of them.

Getting all of them may look like a crazy idea, but it is not.

First because if you're totally fan of this Chronograph, why not considering owning all of them?

After all, there are guys who owns all the variations of the Rolex Submariner, and they are much more than the 5070.

Second reason, each of them has a distinct character, which is an excellent reason to collect them, don't you think?

Third reason, I don't see any weak element / member of the family, here. They are all equally appealing

4th and last, being crazy is as good as elegant: When I took the pictures of all of them, side by side, it came as an evidence, this is a superb quattuor.

The 5070 is the end of another era, and I am not sure the 5170 opens a more appealing adventure.

Looking forward to reading your thoughts and comments,

Best.

Nicolas

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5070

The Patek Philippe reference 5070, part of the Complications collection, marked a significant return for the brand to large-format chronographs. Introduced in 1998, it was the first non-perpetual calendar chronograph produced by Patek Philippe since the reference 1463, which ceased production in the early 1960s. Its design drew inspiration from a unique Patek Philippe aviator's watch from the 1940s, characterized by its prominent case and dial layout, yet reinterpreted for a contemporary audience. This reference established a new aesthetic direction for the brand's chronographs, moving towards more substantial case dimensions.

The watch features a 42mm case, initially offered in 18k yellow gold, housing the manual-winding Caliber CH 27-70. This movement, based on a Nouvelle Lémania ébauche, was extensively finished and modified by Patek Philippe, meeting the brand's stringent quality standards. It provides a power reserve of approximately 55 hours. The dial, in this specific configuration, is black, protected by a sapphire crystal, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters. The fixed bezel frames the dial, and the watch is typically fitted with a leather strap.

Reference 5070 appeals to collectors interested in modern Patek Philippe chronographs that combine traditional movement architecture with a more contemporary case size. Its limited production run and the subsequent introduction of variants in other precious metals contribute to its collectibility. The reference represents a distinct period in Patek Philippe's chronograph history, bridging vintage inspirations with a new era of larger watch designs.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.CH 27-70
Case
18k yellow gold
Diameter
42mm
Dial
black
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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Highlander65
Jun 11, 2012

Love the write up and the pictures!! What an amazing reference and one to me which is a must own for any Patek Chrono fans. I am wearing my 5070 today and seeing this post was a nice confirmation to that choice and wake up thread! My sincere best and enjoy yours like I will enjoy mine! Cheers my friend,

AR
Ares501 - Mr Green
Jun 11, 2012

that you are merciless man Second one was that it would be indeed very nice to own all 4 aces but nightmare aside if I'm allowed to dream I think that I'll choose revelation one at least today... Best Damjan

IV
ivanclai
Jun 11, 2012

coupled with gorgeous pictures, thanks very much. Totally agree with you that each one of them has its own character. Obtaining the collection of 4 would be every watch lover's dream. I started off with a humble "J" becasue of the retro feel you mentioned.

PA
patrick_y
Jun 11, 2012

A valuable post that compares all four 5070s along with legendary objective VLAD commentary. Thank you very much!

PY
Pythagoras
Jun 11, 2012

Thank you nicolas for your comments. Your passion for this particular reference is expressed intensely in every utterance that you made. By the way nicolas, thank you for your advise about the 5070. I hope you still remember the pm which i sent last time. I already got my 5070G and i am very excited to post pictures of it. Once again, my gratitude. Aron

JM
JMan
Jun 11, 2012

I am not a huge chrono fan collector but I have always had a feeling that you need the third 12hr totalizer for the watch to be a true chrono. Is there any merit to that line of thinking Nicolas? If yes, why has PP not added it? J.

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