Patek Philippe 5170P vs 5070P Chronograph Debate
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Patek Philippe 5170P vs 5070P Chronograph Debate

By ambel · Mar 23, 2017 · 96 replies
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ambel's post initiates a compelling comparison between two significant Patek Philippe chronographs, the 5170P and the 5070P, following the announcement of the 5170P. This discussion highlights the distinct design philosophies and collector appeal of each reference, particularly focusing on dial aesthetics, case design, and the use of diamond markers. It invites purists to weigh in on which platinum chronograph truly stands out.

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Now that the 5170P has been announced, for me it's a true contender or even better then the 5070P.

The 5070 has as everyone knows a beautiful case, dial, applied numerals, nice font of numbering,...
The 5170 on the other hand is for me (and most purists) clearly a step down: Breguet numerals, no scale, case design,...
Until 20th March the 5170 could not compete with any 5070

But yesterday the launch of the 5170P
Completely different then existing 5170 collection: Tachymetre scale, font of seconds/minutes very elegant compared to existing 5170, diamond markers better then Breguet applied numerals.
And a beautiful dial on picture (black/dark blue) which in real will be absolutely stunning.

In a few words for me at first sight the 5170P wins over the 5070P.
The 5170P sets apart from the rest over the 5170 collection while the 5070P has just another material and dial color compared to the other references of 5070.

Patek: congratulations with this 5170P! I truly hope that one day I would be able to say that I am a proud owner of the 5170P!

So am looking forward to comments of other Purists: do you prefer to 5170P or 5070P.

 








About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5070

The Patek Philippe reference 5070, part of the Complications collection, marked a significant return for the brand to large-format chronographs. Introduced in 1998, it was the first non-perpetual calendar chronograph produced by Patek Philippe since the reference 1463, which ceased production in the early 1960s. Its design drew inspiration from a unique Patek Philippe aviator's watch from the 1940s, characterized by its prominent case and dial layout, yet reinterpreted for a contemporary audience. This reference established a new aesthetic direction for the brand's chronographs, moving towards more substantial case dimensions.

The watch features a 42mm case, initially offered in 18k yellow gold, housing the manual-winding Caliber CH 27-70. This movement, based on a Nouvelle Lémania ébauche, was extensively finished and modified by Patek Philippe, meeting the brand's stringent quality standards. It provides a power reserve of approximately 55 hours. The dial, in this specific configuration, is black, protected by a sapphire crystal, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters. The fixed bezel frames the dial, and the watch is typically fitted with a leather strap.

Reference 5070 appeals to collectors interested in modern Patek Philippe chronographs that combine traditional movement architecture with a more contemporary case size. Its limited production run and the subsequent introduction of variants in other precious metals contribute to its collectibility. The reference represents a distinct period in Patek Philippe's chronograph history, bridging vintage inspirations with a new era of larger watch designs.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.CH 27-70
Case
18k yellow gold
Diameter
42mm
Dial
black
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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sham1
Mar 23, 2017
Without any doubt!

I would prefer the 5170P. I like the fact that bezel is smaller compared to the 5070P, I like the fact that the watch is more wearable, I even like the diamond markers which contrast beautifully against the dial. A sure winner in my books! Sorry gentlemen, I have always felt that the 5070 range was over rated and with the introduction of 5170P, I believe Patek has produced its best looking chronograph in 60 or 70 years.

JB
JBP99P
Mar 23, 2017
Balance the score!

As an owner of a 5170G (white dial), I chose the watch over the 5070 for it's better proportions and dial. As such I eagerly awaited the reveal of the 5170P and it hasn't disappointed, it is stunning! and winner for me over the 5070P in many ways.

BR
Bruno.M1
Mar 23, 2017
5070p

But I admit the 5170p is also a great piece

AM
ambel
Mar 23, 2017
Bruno: hope you will not be jealous of the outcome [nt]

BR
Bruno.M1
Mar 23, 2017
Curious to see who will pay the dinner LOL [nt]

MI
Miles_151
Mar 23, 2017
5070p

For me too but I will need to see the 5170p in the flesh before I can be 100% sure. I do like the 5170 very much size wise but will always prefer the Lemania based movement 5070. The 5170p is all a bit dark for me. M

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