Patek Philippe Dial Numerals Debate
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Patek Philippe Dial Numerals Debate

By descartes1 · Nov 18, 2019 · 22 replies
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Descartes1 initiates a critical discussion on Patek Philippe's dial aesthetics, specifically addressing the placement and sizing of numerals between subdials on references like the 5270 and 5140. This post delves into a nuanced aspect of watch design that often sparks debate among collectors, questioning whether these design choices align with Patek Philippe's reputation for meticulous execution.

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I will never understand why/Patek lets this happen for some of their (otherwise) nicest and most important references (eg 5270, 5140). Perhaps there is a charm to it, but to me it just seems sloppy, which is so surprising for a company that goes far out of its way so that nothing is sloppy. (Example = instantaneous minute counter intuitive their chronographs).

How do others feel about this?








About the Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar Ref. 5140

The Patek Philippe Reference 5140 is a perpetual calendar wristwatch, succeeding the highly regarded Reference 3940. It maintains the classic Patek Philippe perpetual calendar layout, featuring day, date, month, leap year, and moon phase indications. The 5140 was introduced with a slightly larger case diameter than its predecessor, reflecting contemporary preferences while retaining a traditional aesthetic.

This reference is powered by the ultra-thin self-winding Caliber 240 Q, known for its micro-rotor construction which allows for a slender case profile. The movement provides a power reserve of 48 hours. The watch is presented in 18k white gold, rose gold, or yellow gold cases, measuring 39 mm in diameter, and is fitted with a sapphire crystal. It offers water resistance to 30 meters.

The 5140 appeals to collectors seeking a modern perpetual calendar with a direct lineage to Patek Philippe's established complications. Its production run from 2006 to 2019 saw various dial configurations, including opaline and silvery finishes. The watch is typically paired with a leather strap and a deployant clasp, consistent with Patek Philippe's classic offerings.

Specifications

Caliber
240 Q
Case
18k White Gold, Rose Gold, or Yellow Gold
Diameter
39 mm
Dial
Opaline, Silvery
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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FR
Francoamerican
Nov 18, 2019

For the volume patek philippe sells and the strength of their market position i would expect to movements that are fully harmonious with the watch. in addition to these examples, i've harped on it many times but the lack of an appropriately sized movement in the 5196 is disappointing. FA

SH
sham1
Nov 18, 2019

At least they managed to squeeze all the numbers in.

ST
Stylophile
Nov 18, 2019

Does not bother me at all!!

WR
Wristenthusiast
Nov 18, 2019

By the font. But the chin the PCCs had initially did bother me. Not because of the chin as much as because the second hand could not reach the hash marks. I think it also wiped out a couple minute markers.

CA
Catulle
Nov 18, 2019

Mostly people pay for a name, a mirage, a fantasy. But to each his own.

RO
roberto
Nov 19, 2019

At this price point, it looks sloppy (and not deliberate and beautifully executed like on FPJ CS dial). However, this pales vs the counters not being on the same 3-9 horizon line on 5279 and 5370 but lowered, and this is a function of their in-house movement vs the Lemania. I believe that’s the biggest issue in why these references have been a bit soft, obviously just an opinion. That really bothers me and I cannot unsee it!

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