Patek Philippe Blue Chronographs: 5070P, 5170P, 5172G
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Patek Philippe Blue Chronographs: 5070P, 5170P, 5172G

By amanico · Apr 11, 2019 · 25 replies
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amanico presents a compelling comparison of three 'simple' blue-dialed Patek Philippe chronographs spanning 11 years: the 5070P, 5170P, and the new 5172G. This analysis delves into the subtle yet significant differences in their dials, hands, markers, and overall character, highlighting Patek Philippe's evolving design language for its chronographs.

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Patek 5070P / 5170P and the last one from this year, the 5172G. 

Three blue dials, but three different, much different dials. 



Different hands, tachymeters, minutes, hours markers, sub dials, texture, even the blue hue is different. 

The 5070 has its reworked Lemania movement, while the 2 others share the same in house movement. But here, we are out of topic, as we are focusing on the dials. 

We could also say that each of them has its own character: The 5070 is the more classic, the 5170 the more " dandiesque ", and the 5172 the younger. 

Interesting... 

Best,

Nicolas

About the Patek Philippe Ref. 5070

The Patek Philippe reference 5070, part of the Complications collection, marked a significant return for the brand to large-format chronographs. Introduced in 1998, it was the first non-perpetual calendar chronograph produced by Patek Philippe since the reference 1463, which ceased production in the early 1960s. Its design drew inspiration from a unique Patek Philippe aviator's watch from the 1940s, characterized by its prominent case and dial layout, yet reinterpreted for a contemporary audience. This reference established a new aesthetic direction for the brand's chronographs, moving towards more substantial case dimensions.

The watch features a 42mm case, initially offered in 18k yellow gold, housing the manual-winding Caliber CH 27-70. This movement, based on a Nouvelle Lémania ébauche, was extensively finished and modified by Patek Philippe, meeting the brand's stringent quality standards. It provides a power reserve of approximately 55 hours. The dial, in this specific configuration, is black, protected by a sapphire crystal, and the watch is water-resistant to 30 meters. The fixed bezel frames the dial, and the watch is typically fitted with a leather strap.

Reference 5070 appeals to collectors interested in modern Patek Philippe chronographs that combine traditional movement architecture with a more contemporary case size. Its limited production run and the subsequent introduction of variants in other precious metals contribute to its collectibility. The reference represents a distinct period in Patek Philippe's chronograph history, bridging vintage inspirations with a new era of larger watch designs.

Specifications

Caliber
Cal.CH 27-70
Case
18k yellow gold
Diameter
42mm
Dial
black
Water Resist.
30m
Crystal
Sapphire

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thomaspp
Apr 11, 2019

It is sportier and more bold some how.

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emcquillan
Apr 11, 2019

I’m a fan of the 5172G. The only thing I’d change is the syringe hands, but it still works. It’s a beautiful dial and I appreciate the proportions and the way they were able to not compromise with cut off numbers. It’s a winning combination for me. I’d do a back flip for a 5070P don’t get me wrong, but this 5172 has real appeal. Best,

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RussW
Apr 12, 2019

For me the 5172 has the nicest dial, and the nicest case. Just not sure about the hands though.

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keks
Apr 12, 2019

Given the previous two a blue P would have been more expected. But I suppose they want the G to appeal to a younger more casual buyer and the future P is likely more elegant... I am probably in the minority camp in terms or order of preference of these three. 1 point to the 5172G, it is nice but just that. But obviously it may change once I see it in the metal... 3 points to the 5070P. It is cooll, very cool. Hard not to also get carried away with the rarity factor. When I see it in the wold I t

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David_S
Apr 13, 2019

I have to say I’m a big fan of the 5172. I really look forward to seeing it in the metal. I think it would be a nice complement to my 5270... weekend wearer? Thanks Nicolas for the interesting comparison!

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benlee338
Apr 13, 2019

I'm bias. So that's my choice. Need to see actual 5172G before judgement but looking at the pics, it appears rather flat.

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