Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 96 Shreve, Crump & Low

zizi ww · 2017-03-04T23:52:00Z

Explore the Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 96 double-signed by Shreve, Crump & Low. Discover why provenance and personal engravings enhance vintage watch value.

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zizi ww's acquisition of a Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 96, double-signed by Shreve, Crump & Low, offers a compelling look into the emotional and historical value that can outweigh pristine condition in vintage collecting. His post highlights how unique provenance, like a retailer signature and a personal engraving, transforms a 'normal' piece into something truly special. This discussion explores the nuances of collecting vintage Patek Philippe, particularly the Ref. 96, and the enduring appeal of watches with a story.

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I've been swinging between the CPCP monopoussoir and the ref. 96 for the past few months.

Then finally this came into my sight, a double labeled 96 retailed by Shreve, Crump & Low.

It is a rather normal piece, the dial has been slightly cleaned: since the dial says Geneve instead of Genève, it is a violent way of telling wether the dial is refinished(or are there examples without the è? please share and correct me if I am wrong); the case has been silghtly polished and with some minor scratches; the movement is not perfect either: with double geneva seal, but a bit dirty?(I don't know what's the best word to describe).

Over all it is not a NOS, nor a perfectly well preserved piece. In terms of condition, it is just a normal, common piece that has been worn by its pre-owner(s).

So why did I still get this one? Well first of all due to its condition the price is not sky high like the ones you would see in auctions. Secondly, the retailer, SC&L; a dealer originally from Boston back in 1796. As a Bostonian, this is surly something special to me. Also on the case back, it has engraving says "My love: On our engagement Jan. 31,53 Betty" Therefore I assume this is a wedding gift from a beloved wife to a lucky, happy husband.

From a condition perspective, yes there are issues and this is not the perfect one. But the rest of the signatures on the dial are clear, the dealer's signature on the dial uses a different font contrast from the PP sign, making it interesting to look at. The hallmark on the case is crisp. The movement which has a double geneva seal is like a cherry on the top for me.

Without further ado, I would like to show you the first piece I got for this year the Calatrava ref. 96 retailed by Shreve, Crump & Low.

Hope you like the photos, please feel free to comment, share your knowledge on vintage pps and 96s.

Have a nice day.

Best,

Vin

Key Points from the Discussion

The 31mm case of the Ref. 96, while not universally appealing, is considered perfect by connoisseurs and contributes to its charm.
The personal engraving on the case back, detailing an engagement gift, adds significant character and a unique story, making the watch more desirable than a mint, unengraved piece.
The 'Geneve' vs. 'Genève' dial marking is not a definitive indicator of a refinished dial; some original Patek Philippe dials from the era genuinely lack the accent.
Double-signed dials, especially with a historic retailer like Shreve, Crump & Low, are rare and highly sought after, even if the watch has condition issues.
The watch represents a refreshing alternative to modern, larger watches, emphasizing passion and historical connection over contemporary trends.
Engravings, often perceived as detrimental to resale value, can enhance a watch's appeal when they tell a compelling personal story, indicating a purchase driven by passion rather than profit.

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amanico

Mar 4, 2017

Its 31 mm case is not everybody's taste and it is perfect. The Connoisseurs will enjoy it. It is a watch which is really charming, and its size contributes to that. I fell on several, and each time, it was with great pleasure. Here some specimens.

RG1

Mar 5, 2017

Congratulation. Ref 96 is always pleasure to wear and small size is not a problem at all Enjoy it with a good health

zizi ww

Mar 5, 2017

Hope to see one in flesh one day. Best, Vin

Tonypatch

Mar 5, 2017

This is an example of pure passion. A unique watch, with an odd dial, and a journey back in time on its engraved back. What might have been the story? Where are these people now? A refreshing alternative to all the me-too 5711s and frying-pan-sized current models. Love the dealer name - " Shreve, Crump & Low" how great. Just read the companys history.

Bounce781

Mar 5, 2017

Especially that "Betty". So much personality

Tonypatch

Mar 5, 2017

Especially as normally people worry about engravings damaging the resale value of a watch. This one was bought out of passion, not to make a profit.

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