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A very interesting article from Euronews: www.euronews.com s
The key discovery is normative drift: That AI agent actually follows the 'norms' dictated by the interactions of other AI agents. In other words, if the systemic interactions are generally characterized as 'dog eats dog' or 'zero-sum', then the AI agent will switch track--degenerate--even if it started off with a good alignment to key important values. To say this in another way, when the system degenerates, AI cannot act differently with any moral agency; it merely follows. Contrast this with what the Pope just described as the agency and dignity to do the non-obvious or the non-self-interested even in the face of structural disadvantages. As a driver, many times we 'live and let live' by taking a step back; we may lose some time and patience but an otherwise hazardous episode passes. Just imagine 'normative drift' in a collective of traffic agents dominated by AVs!

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There are a number of basic everyday scenarios and separate critical scenarios that make me question how autonomous vehicles can be approved beyond well defined areas and functions.

 
By: ArmisT : May 29th, 2026-03:22
Ultimately I can’t blame the companies who are trying to develop these technologies because there’s crazy money to be had. However, it is the NHTSA that I believe has regulatory oversight and the ability to impose limits. A simple scenario is one where th... 

Absolutely. Last year I used Waymo for an entire month....

 
By: AuHavrePro : May 29th, 2026-03:31
And, like this article pointed out, despite being at the forefront of Self-Driving technologies, it still had certain issues that boggled my mind. Now, have certain elements iterated into considerably improved ones over the past year, most assuredly, but ... 

Typical way how many US companies do business. Oversell to the point of lying.

 
By: Abu Alex : May 29th, 2026-05:34
I remember sitting in meetings where our team was presenting a benchmarking study of our software and how it stacks up against competitors. The most often asked question about our competitors was: „Is this a real capability or is it as advertised?“

They are competent (in most situations) but they are not capable (especially in under-represented yet potentially high-stakes scenarios).

 
By: Cardio : May 29th, 2026-06:14
This would be how I characterize these AVs at the moment. The SF fire department once put into public sphere their nearly entire records of near-misses and bad misses with AVs. There was just another recent case that grounded the entire fleet away from fr... 

Imagine this in Paris?!?

 
By: Cardio : May 29th, 2026-11:27
A very interesting article from Euronews: www.euronews.com s The key discovery is normative drift: That AI agent actually follows the 'norms' dictated by the interactions of other AI agents. In other words, if the systemic interactions are general... 

The industry calls these issues -long tail”

 
By: mjcruiser42 : May 29th, 2026-18:00
They are last -toughest, rare circumstances that come up in self driving. My son - is convinced our next vehicle will have no steering wheel! Although I think FSD is terrific; I’m not ready to give up the last human control.