a bit of the lugs on VC's round malte watches, which I like as well. Most lugs on watches are rather standard and conservative, thus going away from the norm can be risky as there are always going to be a group that does not like a different design. I also like the dial design of the annual calender. I like some of the calender indications displayed in windows rather than having 3 subdials for all indications. I also like the retrograde date display. Are the movements in both watches manufacture movements or are they in large part outsourced? If there is a high quality movement in the annual calender I think it justifies the price. If it is an ETA movement I think the price is a little high.
Stewart