amanico
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Patek 5960 P, 5960 1 A, 5905 P: Some views.
Honors to the novelty, the new Patek automatic Chronograph Annual Calendar, the 5905 P:
The case is 1, 5 mm bigger than the 5960, the dial has been redesigned, the hands are differently shaped, as well as the pushers.
While I love, and prefer the pushers on the 5905 P, this is, to tell the truth, the only detail I prefer on this new reference. I love these rectangular pushers a lot and find that they go very well with the case.
I am more comfortable with the former case, with the former dial, and with the former hands.
The monocounter of the 5960 has more character, is less " common " in its design than the new one, too.
I find the 5960 more refined.
Now, let's go back to the 5960...
One version I always loved, despite the fact that I am far from being mad with the annual clanedar complication, is the 5960P. Especially with its ruthenium dial.
The Watch is top class, with a touch of sportivity. Very inspired and inspiring. The Monocounter was original, fresh, in the chrono world, at that time ( 2006 ) and was shared with the Nautilus 5980.
Less elegant, more " cool " and sporty, the 5960 1 A...
The white dial is less refined, but doesn't lack charm. It just plays a different card. A kind of Paul Nemwan 5960, if you allow me this comparison taken from the vintage Rolex world.
Now, I have a huge problem, with this " 1 A "... The Bracelet.
In my opinion, and according to my taste, the bracelet is not at its place, with such a Watch. It breaks the coolness, it is too mannered, it is old looking, while the dial is modern, it is just strange.
Strange, too, that Patek didn't go for a strap option.
Let's play a bit with our imagination, and let's try to find a good strap for this " 1 A "...
A racing strap would have worked very well. Perforated, or with big holes, like those I found on the net?
White or red stitching?
That would have some serious coolness.
Or a more modern one, like the one of the 5004 Watch Only?
I am not far from thinking that IF you have the possibility to remove the steel bracelet and to change it for a perforated leather one, you are close to perfection in terms onf coolness.
Now the question is to know if it is possible to do such a change...
Best,
Nicolas
Patek 5960 P, 5960 1 A, 5905 P: Some views.
Honors to the novelty, the new Patek automatic Chronograph Annual Calendar, the 5905 P: The case is 1, 5 mm bigger than the 5960, the dial has been redesigned, the hands are differently shaped, as well as the pushers. While I love, and prefer the pushers ...
But where is the missing hour hand?
Nicholas, Thank you for posting the lovely photos and your opinions, with which I almost entirely agree. We differ only on whether the grey dial 5960P beats the blue or black, a matter of taste to be sure. You are more certain in your taste than I, as I l...
Of course, colors are very subjective. I get your point on the chrono hour hand.
I love timing my trips by car. And I am lost after a while if the Chrono doesn't have the hour hand. And I well remember that it is an important point for you, as you mention it for years. I remember one of our discussions in Paris, about that matter, too...
I have studied the question of strapping 5960/1A
And I also have a solution... However, it takes some time to implement. I bought the watch yesterday and the needed parts are ordered. I must admit that the looks of the bracelet don't turn me on. At the same time I must say that it is the most comfortabl...
I'm not sure the 5905 is the 5960's replacement watch
It is as usual difficult to know but it seems the 5905 is a mix of the 5960 and 5205 of course but there is still a 5960 reference in the catalogue (is it the last one I don't know). We often have discussions about "why did they make this watch or that on...
Its a replacement...
hi Mark, My 2 cents on this issue, 5960A was a new thing in Patek catalogue, daily version, automatic, more affordable, slightly less complicated than the 5970. It felt like a friendly approach of the 5970, entry level for higher complication, and targeti...
It is curious to compare it to the 5970 but
we all have our views on design. However, the 5960 and 5905 are really close and the comparision is natural. Time will tell what will become of the 5960 line. In a way I like when something ends while still beeing looked for :) Thanks for your view on thi...
I feel it is, I have the intuition of that, and when you compare both...
There is no need for Patek to get two of the same so close. Ok, there was the Nautilus 5980, but it was not an annual calendar. Here the two refs are so close that, for me it is clearly a replacement. Best, Nicolas
It is possible to put a leather strap...
... i saw it already. I agree with what you said about the 5960A bracelet. They took a hard road. Think about it, how many nice bracelet there are out there? IMO I can count only 3-4 : Ap royal oak, nautilus, rolex (oyster and president). As for the compa...
I agree with every single word.
Amanico said about the comparison. That comparison has been on my mind for the past month back and forth. I had my name on the 5905 waiting list,But I still can't get over the grey dialed 5960P.Now I am regretting that I didn't buy it while it was still i...
Like you, except 3 or 4 bracelets, I don't see many fine ones.
Absolutely agree on your observations about the 5905 dial. I find the 5960 more coherent. Best, Nicolas
Thanks for these pictures, which are helpful.
Curious how they treated the part between the lugs. But hey, if it is the price to pay to have it on a strap... Best, Nicolas
Gorgeous on strap!
Beautiful strap, may I ask where you had it made? Life would be so much easier if Patek dropped 21mm lugs for 20mm…. so many more strap options at 20
I have had quite a few made at 21mm…
but far costlier and fewer materials and textures to choose from generally. Suppose it requires more thought but for accessories impulse buys are generally more fun!
Strap source
Hi all, I apologize if the last post was textless. Insomnia at night and responded quickly to try to sleep. Strap option 1: Aftermarket choose 21/16 mm with replacement buckle. You can use the same pins as the ones from bracelet. I believe pins are SS. St...
Link for strap
Apparently, link did not work. Google: market straps ZURICH FOR PATEK PHILIPPE
Very nice
and thank you for sharing Minyu. Welcome on PuristSPro and congratulations for getting this watch, a great move. Cheers, Mark