cen@jkt
1918
Somebody bite my bullet :)
This is the topic that I wanna discuss for a long time. For me, as informed collector, and buying for my own pleasure, where it's made is NOT a consideration at all. For me it even goes further: the brand is NOT important. As long as the watches are made well, fun, and unique.
For majority of the market: hoarder, flippers, and gift-givers, or people that want luxury items (as oppose of a people who are only looking for horological bliss) made in swiss is mighty important. It's prestige and assurance of good resale value.
But i think people like me are minority. And I understand that in the end the bottom figures are mighty important.
Swiss-Made and COSC rules are changing
Forumners, I heard that: In future, the minimum value of Swiss-ness to qualify as Swiss Made will be 80% but that is easily covered by wages so that means that proportionately MORE of the components can be imported and "finished" or "assembled" in Switzer...
One may matter; the other ismeaningless.
The Swiss-made label has been a joke for a long time and apparently will continue to be a joke. A brand that relies on that label for a perception of quality is very unlikely to have the actual quality to interest a well-informed buyer. If the industry re...
Testing movements VS watches; historical reasons for COSC
The COSC tests are conducted on movements, rather than watches ; there is no requirement that the movements have to be finished. Even with the change in COSC procedures, an unfinished movement with the complication module could be tested. I personally do ...
One more thing...
As I wrote in my post in the Azimuth thread below, the requirement to test base movements fitted with modules will not affect COSC very much. Rolex, Omega and Breitling make up nearly 90% of the movements certified by COSC ( click here for numbers); Rolex...
I see
I was under the impression that most Breitling and Omega chronos use the Valjoux 7750 now, especially since it is now available in the "tricompax" layout, and because the ETA2892-based modular chrono is such a small movement. - SJX
The implications are deeper than at first sight.......
Suppose that whole assembled base + module or integrated movements can be tested. Suppose the most common currently outsourced chronometer movements become exclusive to the original manufacturer/group only.......er.....that would be Swatch Group keeping a...
But that's not caused by COSC
That's because from '08 or '09 Swatch will only supply finished movements and not ebauches to non-Swatch group brands. Already many of the smaller brands are already being squeezed out; dials, hands and ETA movements are tough to get. It's not an issue wi...
Not a cause but
SJX, I agree that COSC rule changes do not affect the number of COSC certifications per year much. Rolex, Omega and Breitling will account for most of those. But, I'm just repeating what the lucky (or foresighted) executives who have invested in making in...
The 80% Swiss made rule was refused by the Swiss "parliament" as
supposedly it was contrary to the free trade treaties between Switzerland and the EU
No and no...
Most recent purchases: - antique pocketwatch, vintage, vintage, Nomos, new Seiko, vintage Seiko. The Nomos is as accurate as you could want, and the Seikos are more than accurate enough. Vintage, I don't care. Antique, I'm gob-smacked they're still as acc...
One "Geneva Seal" brand
did precisely that in the beginning. Every watch was supplied with a "birth" certificate with passport size photo of the dial attached and watchmaker's signature. How did you remember that? MTF
