amanico
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Very interesting post, Nilo.
First of all, congratulations on your 7000th!
Back to your post, each of your subtitles are worth a dedicated post.
I will try to come back to some of them.
- Mechanical watches is a passion: Of course! Nobody here can disagree, or he should wonder why he's spending so much time, here.
- Watch companies don’t listen to their aficionados:
Yes, and no. Yes, as a lot of brands don't care about what we think. No, as some do listen to us.
One example? JLC, with the TT Polaris. We wanted it, JLC did it.
- Watches are industrial products. Yes, for the vast majority of watches. No, for some of them. See, for example, Kari Voutilainen's watches.
- Watch manufacturers, any brand, some day will disappoint you.
Clearly. On several grounds: The quality control, the service, prices, offers, decoration. There is no exception to that. The deeper you are going on that hobby, the more you will be disappointed. That's a natural and unavoidable feeling. But, from time to time, the love affair is back.
Painfully slow, expensive, not always efficient. Brands should really pay more attention to that. This is a crucial point to keep clients and gain others.
Why is it that long? Because brands are more focusing on production than on the service. You gain money when you produce watches, it is less evident when you service them.
6) Vintage watches are fantastic but a very dangerous proposition.
Yes, indeed. Good, excellent warning. Now, if you follow some golden rules, the risk is very acceptable: Patience, homework, a reputable seller.
Dangerous but how rewarding!
About your last point on Watchprosite, what can we say? This is the most educate, polite, friendly and useful place for the watch aficionado or collector.
Best, my friend, and please, keep on the good work coming.
Nicolas
This message has been edited by amanico on 2015-12-08 07:59:50
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Purists, Took some time to hit the 7000 mark and after seven years (I’m a member of this community since Jun 27, 2008) I could learn a lot, make great friends and experience lots of changes over my watch hobby. A set of major learning points in no particu...
Very interesting post, Nilo.
First of all, congratulations on your 7000th! Back to your post, each of your subtitles are worth a dedicated post. I will try to come back to some of them. - Mechanical watches is a passion: Of course! Nobody here can disagree, or he should wonder why he...
Thanks Nicolas ...
About the "listen" point, the target is mass production pieces. Cheers, Nilo
Fantastic post, Nilo.
And congratulations on 7000! Point #5 is so true, and I guess everyone here could go on with horror stories about different companies. I would just add to your argument that not only are the companies slow to service, but they are increasingly finding ser...
Thanks Padj ...
Maintenance is an area that we should discuss much more. Cheers, Nilo
Congratulations for your 7000th post Nilo and for being so friendly and passion sharing
The main sentence I will select from your 6 first points is : "[...] let’s refrain our disappointment because the watches are not made specifically to us ." It is true about style, about technical design or about size. Not all novelties can fit our tastes...
Thanks Mark ...
About my points I'm a strong adept of "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". Cheers, Nilo
Congratulations on this milestone and to thousands more!
The post is worthy of the achievement, too - very well argued and something we probably all think about from time to time. I hope you continue to educate and entertain us with your passion, your spectacular photography, your knowledge... For many, many ye...
Watch companies don't listen to their aficionados.......at least one does.
Nilo, Felicitations on your 7000 posts milestone. You are almost correct.... I know one watch company that listened to input from PuristS at our 10th anniversary conference in Las Vegas: IGOTT-2. This steel watch was the result and some features were adop...
There are exceptions ...
MTF, I had in mind broad produced watches and not limited editions. The great example is a major brand, that each year the brand supporters hope for a change on the chronograph model and this major brand never listens. Cheers, Nilo
Nilo,
Congratulations for your 7000th post! You have an amazing collection! Thanks for sharing!
congratulations on the milestone
I always enjoy your posts and this one especially so. I wholeheartedly agree that slow service is a major gripe but I am afraid that as long we are captive customers of a brand there is not enough incentive to change this. Wonderful watches with a unified...
Thank you Andreas ....
I don't think that we should be captive of anything, except our wifes. Cheers, Nilo
Congratulations, that is some milestone at 7K...
I saw you consider the Aventurine dial as one of the key watches that a very good sales can find. Now, after the Spectre, Snoopy, I am given opportunity to this Aventurine, plus a platinum SM300 with number 357/357...I'm running out of funds (, just pick ...
Thanks Raymond ...
If you take the Aventurine in your hands, you are doomed. It's the kind of "I must have it". Pictures of it don't show 50% of the beauty. Cheers, Nilo
Congratulations on the milestone, and thank you for the great write-up.
Like you said, we learn and grow, we change or evolve, we share passion and emotions. I'm really grateful and equally proud to be a part of this PuristSPro community.
Thank you Luis6 ...
This evolutionary view is very interesting. BTW: Congratulations for your A. Lange & Söhne. Cheers, Nilo
Only you could come up with . . .
. . . 'rusty lovers'. That description says it all with two words; defining vintage would take me two paragraphs! It's impossible to imagine this community without you, Hombre. Warmest regards, Art
Thank you Master Art ...
Being a "rusty lover" is a great thing. As I stated, 2016 will be my "rusty year". Cheers, Nilo
Found myself nodding in agreement all the way
Congrats on your 7000th posts, looking forward to many more! J
Thanks J.Sim1984 ...
Stay tuned. I need to complete my small Omega 9300 series. Cheers, Nilo
Lovely theme of seven
I appreciate the honest and passionate writing and as always the beautiful pictures. I share many of your sentiments. Much appreciated,
congrats and nice 7000th post!
Onwards to 10K ! #5 Quality control How is it even possible? That is what I have asked myself. From the 13 (new from AD) watches I bought the past 5 years, 3 of them broke down within weeks after purchase. That means that 23% was (a sort of) DOA . That is...
Quality assurance....
No complains on my side, with the brands that I acquire (Omega, IWC and JLC). I know that some other major brands experience issues but I don't have direct contact with those. Cheers and thank you, Nilo
Wow how did I miss this post?!
congrats Nilo on the big 7! Lol I mean 7k posts! I enjoyed reading this thank you for the post PuristSPro won't be the same without you my friend. Always love your sharings and participation Here's to many more years of our friendship on PuristSPro! Cheer...
very good post
agreeing on most points, I feel some are missing... - the watch business aside from a very few industrial brands and some individual watchmakers is basically a fraud-system overcharging you by telling lies as real stories and relating to every story possi...