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agreed, and to all who might conclude, somehow, from my recent comments...

 

Hi, Spiro, Rip (from WR) others who have drawn this conclusion -

I tried to be as careful as humanly possible, short of NOT posting the actual timing results publically, that the actual results should not be the fodder for quick and easy conclusions about rate stability.

With the exception of watch 1, which showed two very strange (so strange, I HAVE to look into it) anomolies, the othe two were VERY stable within a given range of the mainspring torque curve.

All were more than a few years old, without the benefit of a recent service.

For those who are familiar with rate stability and other "accuracy" factors, we'd take a stable but fast (or slow) timepiece over one that varies all over the place, any day.

One can be (relatively) easily regulated; the other will likely require substantial tweaking/adjustments. 

And ultimately, on the wrist behaviour is what counts, for me, which I haven't done yet or shared.

These things are both far simpler than we often make them, but far more complex than most realize.

What the hell am I talking about?  I'll let John or Suitbert or the other more technically, engineering inclined to go there...

TM

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Sometimes Time Really Does Fly By...

 
By: rosengoo : March 22nd, 2007-04:36
...I just looked at my trusty watch and discovered that today is the 38th month anniversary since I placed my deposit for a Simplicity. Last update on it was delivery towards the end of this year. I'm waiting patiently knowing that it will be worth it! Be... 

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a

 
By: patekkie : March 22nd, 2007-10:31
banana. >;^) If i were you, I would be unable to contain my anticipation of receiving the 'grail watch'. Congrats on even being in the lineup.

dufour

 
By: poseidon1964 : March 22nd, 2007-11:17
it is widely known that the timekeeping is not very good thats bad for such an expensive watch

Sources..?

 
By: nickd : March 22nd, 2007-11:21
I've read one or two references to specific watches. Aren't you making a huge generalisation? Or are there more references I've not come across? nick

dufour

 
By: poseidon1964 : March 22nd, 2007-11:30
i have great respect for him but ialso ihave alot of respect for the people that spend time analyzing see the posts ibelieve that if you pay this type of money you should expect the best we do love in thi contry to create and admire icons

Spiro I'll give you another point of view

 
By: alex : March 22nd, 2007-13:37
I have a Simplicity and have 3 other close friends who own one and in general our watches are fast 2-3 secs a day!! Does it now make the Simplicity the most accurate watch in the world? No because each experience is unique and generalisations are dangerou... 

agreed, and to all who might conclude, somehow, from my recent comments...

 
By: ThomasM : March 22nd, 2007-11:31
Hi, Spiro, Rip (from WR) others who have drawn this conclusion - I tried to be as careful as humanly possible, short of NOT posting the actual timing results publically, that the actual results should not be the fodder for quick and easy conclusions about... 

dufour

 
By: poseidon1964 : March 22nd, 2007-12:02
iam a surgeon and not awatch maker but i like toknow the attention to detail . people expect the most accuracy from me so iam no an icon but ihave had discussions with kari and other people about this thing ido not want to put the name of another young br... 

please don't misunderstand me, Spiro, I feel the same way you do.

 
By: ThomasM : March 22nd, 2007-12:28
Kari is a wonder, and I have the utmost respect for his work. AND I like him, besides... I am really in a quandary; at the end of the day, you mention icons, and as someone who has been fascinated with consumer behaviour for as long, and almost as fervent... 

Rate drift over the length of servicing intervals...

 
By: nickd : March 22nd, 2007-12:04
I'm more than happy to go there - but I don't think many people would follow nick

Here's a possible solution Thomas

 
By: waguson : March 24th, 2007-15:09
Since you know Philippe Dufour quite well, why don't you just pick up the phone, give him a call and discuss your possible problem directly with him ? As you know, there is no assistant there, in general Philippe picks up the phone himself. Perhaps your w...